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To: donh; metmom
Comprehensive separation of church and state was clearly an original intent. Read the Federalist State Papers...

Really? I could not find that discussion anywhere in the Federalist Papers. Help me out here. Which Federalist Paper are you talking about?

2,637 posted on 12/23/2005 10:04:15 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe; donh

Out for the night; check the discussion in the morning *placemarker*

If I don't connect, Merry Christmas.


2,638 posted on 12/23/2005 10:18:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Really? I could not find that discussion anywhere in the Federalist Papers. Help me out here. Which Federalist Paper are you talking about?

Well, since the digs and asides aimed at religious establishment begin with paper #1, I suspect you aren't falling all over yourself in your headlong search. Here's a ref:

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December 8, 1787

The Federalist Papers
Federalist # 19
The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union

Alexander Hamilton and James Madison

So far as the peculiarity of their case will admit of comparison with that of the United States, it serves to confirm the principle intended to be established. Whatever efficacy the union may have had in ordinary cases, it appears that the moment a cause of difference sprang up, capable of trying its strength, it failed. The controversies on the subject of RELIGION, which in three instances have kindled violent and bloody contests, may be said, in fact, to have severed the league. The Protestant and Catholic cantons have since had their separate diets, where all the most important concerns are adjusted, and which have left the general diet little other business than to take care of the common bailages.

That separation had another consequence, which merits attention. It produced opposite alliances with foreign powers: of Berne, at the head of the Protestant association, with the United Provinces; and of Luzerne, at the head of the Catholic association, with France.

Publius

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The federalist has about a dozen of such references indicative of the paranoia many of the founding fathers harbored for the poisonous combination of religion and state interests whose european cavalcade of horrors was far fresher in their minds than it is in ours.

2,671 posted on 12/24/2005 8:41:16 AM PST by donh
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