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To: P-Marlowe

I just want to echo the correctness of your analysis and extend it.

The Dover case is clearly a case of an activist judge wanting to re-invigorate the bogus separation notion. Moreover, if the local mandate of religious tract or Siddartha were an establishment of religion then the federal government would be prevented by the first amendment from "making a law respecting [that] an establishment of religion."

The fact that the establishment clause has been deliberately misinterpreted in this backwards way is a major reason these over heated debates are taking place across the nation. Whether the view is popular or not, the first civil right is a guarantee that local religious establishments will not be messed with by the federal government. How we got to where a certain group of citizens could send down federal lightning bolts on any local opinion that strikes them as Christian is amazing.

Notice also that the local citizens of Dover took electoral action to make their science education consistent with the views of those defending evolution in this thread. But that is not good enough. We must re-build the Wall that never existed.


2,243 posted on 12/22/2005 12:41:41 PM PST by lonestar67
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To: lonestar67; P-Marlowe
How we got to where a certain group of citizens could send down federal lightning bolts on any local opinion that strikes them as Christian is amazing.

Strikes them as Christian? In the case of Dover. It WAS Christian, plain and simple. And the school board members who testified admitted as much in court. Their fool plan was doomed from the start when they started telling half truths in their depositions. I suppose they should just take the words of Randy Wenger from the TMLC:

"But even with God’s blessing, it’s helpful to consult a lawyer before joining the battle, the speakers said. For instance, the Dover area school board might have had a better case for the intelligent design disclaimer they inserted into high school biology classes had they not mentioned a religious motivation at their meetings, [Randy] Wenger said. “Give us a call before you do something controversial like that,” he said. “I think we need to do a better job at being clever as serpents,” Wenger added."

Think about the implications of that statement, and then get back to me, on whether such sentiments are what you want representing your faith.

2,251 posted on 12/22/2005 12:58:23 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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