[conservative blonde]

IC may not work for you but I think Behe knows what he is talking about. I never indicated he didn't accept your 1 -5 items. So what does that prove? I suggested reading Behe to another person to give her a different view. I personally am not restricted with the precepts of ID. I am a Creationist. My whole premise is that since there is this much discussion about origins it simply shows there is lack of agreement and our public school children should be allowed to hear these different competing ideas as to origins. It is not right nor honest to tell them evolution is fact and there is no argument about it.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"IC may not work for you but I think Behe knows what he is talking about."

He doesn't. The bacterial flagellum has been shown not to be IC. The complex of genes that make it have been demonstrated to exist with parts missing. The genes in that case work to do something different than locomotion. It is a great example of how evolution works with is available.

All of his other examples have the same problems.

"My whole premise is that since there is this much discussion about origins it simply shows there is lack of agreement and our public school children should be allowed to hear these different competing ideas as to origins."

The disagreement is political, not scientific.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

It is not right nor honest to tell them evolution is fact and there is no argument about it.

It is if your presenting ideas in the biological sciences. However, ID would be perfectly acceptable in a religion class or as a Church study group.

Has your Church incorporated ID into it's sermons?