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I tend to avoid these daily threads on intelligent design, basically because they're made up of the same old people grinding their same old axes. While I believe in an intelligent designer, I'm not a fan of intelligent design being taught in science classes. But I'm also not a fan of federal judges telling local school boards what should and shouldn't be in the curricula they approve for their schools, particularly based upon the bogus notion of the "separation of church and state" as it's currently understood and applied by the courts.

This said, I think we should cut through the bull about opposing intelligent design in the interest of maintaining the "integrity" of science classes, and recognize that *most* of those who incessantly bash the notion of intelligent design do so because they chaff at the idea that there is a Designer behind all of life that they are ultimately responsible to. Some on these threads are admitted atheists, and I can at least respect their opposition to intelligent design because they're honest about where they're coming from, but the secular fundamentalists who oppose intelligent design by hiding behind a veneer of "intellectual integrity" don't impress me. Many of them call the intelligent design proponents "ignorant" in a way which shows these opponents of intelligent design to be both arrogant and intolerant of any faith but their own.

Frankly, I don't see how the notion of intelligent design hurts anyone -- unless one is so opposed to the idea of the existence of God that it makes them skirm. It's pretty obvious that this is where some of the opponents of ID are coming from.

Frankly, I don't see how the notion of intelligent design hurts anyone -- unless one is so opposed to the idea of the existence of God that it makes them skirm. It's pretty obvious that this is where some of the opponents of ID are coming from.

The ultimate in silly arguments - if you can't actually support your position, make insinuations about the motives of others.

This said, I think we should cut through the bull about opposing intelligent design in the interest of maintaining the "integrity" of science classes, and recognize that *most* of those who incessantly bash the notion of intelligent design do so because they chaff at the idea that there is a Designer behind all of life that they are ultimately responsible to.

Most of us Christians who bash ID do so because ID is not anything. It's not science and it takes time away from teaching people anything in biology class.

It's not religion because it says it's not.

It would be better if all the ID supporters would be honest and just say that they'd like to see Christian electives based on the Bible, offered in public school.

I'd support that.

My kids already have to take "religions of the world" classes that are worse than useless.

It's time for the ID'ers to quit pussy-footing around and use their considerable resources to push for opening the public schools to what 75% of the American, Church-going public, already believes.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Frankly, I don't see how the notion of intelligent design hurts anyone -

Typical argument from a libertarian who wants to "do their own thing" and to h-ck with society.