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To: Dimensio
Good point. Darwin's theory is actually a hypothesis. It has never been proven, therefore the "Theory" classification is intellectually dishonest.

I suspect the misclassification was adopted by Atheists who are afraid of Christians and the message they bring, much as how "pro abortion" became "pro choice". Lacking a relationship with Jesus, Atheists are desperate for substance in their lives, and will attempt to create an alternative to Christ - did you know that some alcoholics, trying to get clean actually worship door knobs rather than accept Jesus in their lives?

I know this is a very bad time of the year for Atheists, and this thread is bringing out the confusion, hate, fear, and lack of tolerance that rules their life.

Why else would they feel they must keep school children from hearing the word of God? What are you so afraid of?

If your side were so sure God did not exist, that creationism, intelligent design, whatever, had no benefit or merit, you wouldn't bother with it any more than if your kid had to take Chinese or underwater basket weaving or high speed BB stacking.

No, the reason you are so desperate to keep even the slightest reference to God away from our children is because you are desperately afraid they will find a relationship with Our Lord, and you will be alone.

Have a Merry Christmas (you'll find it easier if you repent 1st)

1,661 posted on 12/20/2005 9:03:19 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Luke 2: The Real Christmas story)
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To: 4woodenboats
Darwin's theory is actually a hypothesis.

No, it isn't.

It has never been proven, therefore the "Theory" classification is intellectually dishonest.

You demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding of science here. No "theory" in science is "proven". Theories cannot be proven. Theories in science have not been proven and they will never be proven. That is not how science works.

I suspect the misclassification was adopted by Atheists who are afraid of Christians

Yet another dishonest creationist equivocates acceptance of evolution as a theory with atheism. Why do creationists lie so much?

Why else would they feel they must keep school children from hearing the word of God? What are you so afraid of?

Why are you bringing up a discussion of atheism versus Christianity when the topic at hand is evolution versus Intelligent Design? I know that a number of dishonest creationist sources claim otherwise, but not everyone who accepts evolution is an atheist. The majority of those who accept the theory of evolution as valid are theists.

If your side were so sure God did not exist,

You are dishonestly misrepresenting "my side", so nothing you draw from this statement has any meaning. Is your position so abysmally weak that you have to lie about those who don't agree with you?
1,664 posted on 12/20/2005 9:08:21 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: 4woodenboats

Good point. Darwin's theory is actually a hypothesis. It has never been proven, therefore the "Theory" classification is intellectually dishonest.

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Please, please, please stop with this tired, incorrect line of argument. Darwin had a theory. Specifically he had a theory to explain the diversity of life that we see around us. It is a theory because it makes predictions, is testable and is falsifiable. It is not "proven" because nothing in science EVER gets proven. ALL of science is tentative. Once you claim that something is "proven" then you are no longer doing science.
However, while ID claims to be a theory, it is not. It is not a theory because it makes no testable, falsifiable predictions.


I suspect the misclassification was adopted by Atheists

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Not everyone who realises that ID is not a scientific thoery is an atheist. Many many of them are Christian. Why lie about them?

who are afraid of Christians and the message they bring, much as how "pro abortion" became "pro choice".

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There is no correlation between opinions on abortion and opinion on pseudo-science

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Lacking a relationship with Jesus, Atheists are desperate for substance in their lives, and will attempt to create an alternative to Christ - did you know that some alcoholics, trying to get clean actually worship door knobs rather than accept Jesus in their lives?

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Name ONE alcoholic who worships a doorknob? And again, not everyone who realises that ID is not science is an atheist.

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I know this is a very bad time of the year for Atheists, and this thread is bringing out the confusion, hate, fear, and lack of tolerance that rules their life.

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Confusion? You are the one who confuses science with atheism.
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Why else would they feel they must keep school children from hearing the word of God? What are you so afraid of?
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But, I thought that Intelligent Design was meant to be science. Now it is the Word of God. It seems you ARE confused.

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If your side were so sure God did not exist, that creationism, intelligent design, whatever, had no benefit or merit, you wouldn't bother with it any more than if your kid had to take Chinese or underwater basket weaving or high speed BB stacking.
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Wrong again. If my kids were being taught ANY lies in school, I would be annoyed. Teaching them that ID is science is a lie.

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No, the reason you are so desperate to keep even the slightest reference to God away from our children is because you are desperately afraid they will find a relationship with Our Lord, and you will be alone.

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Nope. I dont care if kids are taught about gods of any sort. However, they should not be taught that nonscience is science. I happen to be very much in favour of kids learning about as many of the religions of the planet as possible. But not as science.

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Have a Merry Christmas (you'll find it easier if you repent 1st)
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Have a happy Christmas yourself. But I dont think I have anything on my conscience that I need to repent of at the moment.


1,715 posted on 12/21/2005 5:34:43 AM PST by TheWormster
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