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To: Coyoteman
I was just walking with my children observing God's glorious creation and this scripture came to mind. 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Romans 1:18-23 I know unbelievers consider it foolish to take God at his Word but my heart soars when I consider His creation and the beautiful children that he formed in my womb.
271 posted on 12/17/2005 11:12:48 AM PST by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: happyhomemaker

So, because we believe the evidence of the physical creation, we are going to Hell?


273 posted on 12/17/2005 11:14:41 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: happyhomemaker
I know unbelievers consider it foolish to take God at his Word but my heart soars when I consider His creation and the beautiful children that he formed in my womb.

Out of curiosity, and I mean no offense, but if God (rather than a man) created the children in your womb, what's so special about Mary?

274 posted on 12/17/2005 11:15:25 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: happyhomemaker
I am happy for you (no satire).

I have no problem at all with what you have described.

Your post is in great contrast to the post above I was reacting to (#70, now removed) which seemed to promise scientists who study evolution the stake or the rope.

279 posted on 12/17/2005 11:18:52 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: happyhomemaker
I know unbelievers consider it foolish to take God at his Word but my heart soars when I consider His creation and the beautiful children that he formed in my womb.

Thanks! You raise a good point here for antievolutionists, especially of the primitive and naive Hovind variety, to consider. Like most other creationists, and as the Bible multiply and affirmatively asserts, God himself "formed" your children in the womb. And yet I'm sure that you have no objection to human embryology and development being taught matter of factly as a natural biological process in textbooks. (At least, having long followed the antievolution movement, I'm not aware of a single such objection ever having been raised.)

Thus it is clearly possible, and commonly done even by the most theologically conservative and devout, to fully accept and affirm Biblical claims that God is personally, intimately and actively involved in a process, and simultaneous accept a purely naturalistic treatment of the selfsame process for scientific purposes.

297 posted on 12/17/2005 11:32:07 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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