[metmom]

He lost me sooner. Once he started with all the accusations about lies, that turned me off. Even though one disagrees with the ToE, this is no way to start a debate. It damages his credibility. Actually, I did read further but was not impressed. *sigh*

[Stultis]

I actually attended one of Hovind's presentations years ago. It was much lamer than even I (at that time very familiar with the antievolution movement) expected. For instance at one point he was discussing discrimination against creationists. Asked for examples of "science journals" that had refused to publish creationist research he cited two: National Geographic Magazine and The Readers Digest. (Yep, seriously. I nearly fell out of my chair.)