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To: highball
Yes, posters are responsible for what they say or in some cases refuse to say on these boards.

Oh, great, now are the posting Nazis not only judging what is written, but what is not written.

Well let me get to that, because I have been really T.O.-ed at the "defenders of science" on the crevo threads. But when scientists make total asses of themselves, when science is perverted, when science is misused, or abused, they are nowhere to be found:

When textbooks read like manifestos and respected scientists tarnish the profession with their tarnished professions, there's nary a peep.

But when somebody, somewhere suggests that maybe there might be a hole or two in the theories to which many scientists cling to like a security blanket, well here comes the descending chorus.

Well, if evo is taught in the high schools, junior high schools or elementary schools in any way like earth science is taught by the textbook in the second link, then it is nothing more than religious dogma that is "taught" without any critical analysis or means by which the students can assess the claims.

If scientists care, really care, about science, then they should focus their energies on individuals who practice the art and who claim ownership of the scientific method for their pronouncements. Instead of merely treating ID like a member of the humanities (I contend that there is much more solid ID scholarship than virtually all of the humanities and social sciences. Of course, I think there is more scholarship at DeVry than in the humanities and social sciences.), they eagerly pounce upon it with a fury that has not been seen since the times of Galileo.

But I suppose attacks against science only matter when your grant dollars are at risk.

So, yes, I am willing to hold posters responsible for what they refuse to say.

But back to the case at hand: What beating?

685 posted on 12/07/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: AmishDude

Don't you ever read your links? Your link to the textbook complaints belies your statements.


688 posted on 12/07/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: AmishDude
[Vanity] Does this stuff belong in an 8th Grade Science Textbook? You tell me.:

Didn't see this (and [Vanity] usually means I won't) but let's look at post number 4 on the thread.

I wouldn't let my children by taught by an atheist. This is what you get.

So I would likely have agreed with much of the criticism, but there is no way I'm going to let a piece of bigotry like that slide, so we would have had a food fight instead.

700 posted on 12/07/2005 12:02:00 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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