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To: JudgemAll
"They think it's democratic, Darwinism should be voted, that my arguments do not make sense by sheer fiat of vote."

The creationists do think that science is a democratic process. Reality doesn't answer to a vote.

"They made themselves little gods, little imperialist people with little imperialist theories which reject empirical discussions, foundations of all science, they believe they themselves are Napoleons, voting... but are in fact people who ought to go the insane assylum....to jealous of their ivory tower access, they do not want the religious to even learn science, in the name of science, making themselves a white nut tower instead."

Sounds like a nice little Marxist critique with your talk of *imperialist theories*. You were even kind enough to include a call to have evolutionists put away in institutions for their *illness*.
830 posted on 12/05/2005 5:05:07 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
“Yesterday, this day’s madness did prepare” . . . . . Omar Khayyam, The Rubaiyat

The creationists do think that science is a democratic process.

Well, who told them that? Let’s see . . . how does it work? You have a governing authority of some kind . . . a commission; a board; a legislature. Sometimes appointed by an elected authority; sometimes elected directly; created by certain political processes from as simple an initiative as a policy or a law, to as fundamental a process as by charter or by constitution. Each governing authority has jurisdiction over certain specified responsibilities, sometimes constructed quite narrowly, sometimes very broadly. Oddly enough, it unfolds that one of those activities happens to be the establishment and administration of government indoctrination centers, otherwise known as ‘public schools,’ which are funded by the people’s resources, as are all government powers.

Oh, wait . . .

Remarkably, it seems that two candidates for a Kansas authority have played and won the game exactly by the rules. They made clear what their agenda would be, they submitted themselves to the judgment of the people of Kansas, and they garnered more support than their opponents were able to muster. Though it’s surely a bit too melodramatic to assert that anyone thinks science is a democratic process, it’s clear that in Kansas, as it is in the whole of the US, educational standards, including standards for the teaching of science, are a democratic process, as they have been for well over a century.

Reality doesn't answer to a vote.

It doesn’t?! From what planet have you been viewing this controversy? In a representative republic, reality answers to majority’s vote all the time. But it is true that we don’t always like the answer we get from reality when it’s abused by majority’s vote. Your angst is a classic example. I doubt this condition will inspire any self-examination on your part, though, only finger-pointing.

891 posted on 12/05/2005 7:25:31 PM PST by YHAOS
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