Intelligent Design Might Be Meeting Its Maker

The New York Times ^ | December 4, 2005 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

[Right Wing Professor]

TO read the headlines, intelligent design as a challenge to evolution seems to be building momentum.

...

Behind the headlines, however, intelligent design as a field of inquiry is failing to gain the traction its supporters had hoped for. It has gained little support among the academics who should have been its natural allies. And if the intelligent design proponents lose the case in Dover, there could be serious consequences for the movement's credibility.

On college campuses, the movement's theorists are academic pariahs, publicly denounced by their own colleagues. Design proponents have published few papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

[RunningWolf]

Sometimes it looks like the

Marxist Atheism Agenda

Wolf

[He Rides A White Horse]

Beijing (AsiaNews) – ‘Westernising’ and ‘disintegrating’ trends in the name of religion threaten China and the government must “be patient and meticulous in imperceptibly influencing the people”, especially the young and leading party cadres, so as to stop the “growth of religions, cultic organisations and superstitions and strengthen Marxist atheism”.

These are the main points presented in a paper prepared by the Department of Propaganda of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC) to stop the growth of religion and spirituality among the Chinese.

Conversions among the young and leading party cadres are of particular concern. For this reason, the government is particularly interested in exploiting all the means of communication at its disposal, especially Internet, as privileged “tools to conduct Marxist atheism propaganda and education”. According to the paper, Internet is a new resource for improving the moral development of the young who are its greatest users in the country.

This should be required reading, although I'm sure some here think this should not be discussed in 'academia' as it promotes 'religion'.

I suppose I believe in one form of evolution, and that is that atheistic, secular humanistic teachings always lead to one thing..........

[He Rides A White Horse]

In a summit on religions held in Beijing in October, the government stressed that, given China’s special conditions, it is opposed to “laws based on western mentality”. Religious freedom is in this sense a concession of the state, not an innate human right.

....and some would call us stupid. Indeed.

[He Rides A White Horse]

The world is a dangerous, confusing, and scary place to most people. There is a religious resurgence occurring in this country, as people are increasingly turning to He who always gives comfort to His people. You know as well as I do that this is precisely what is going on.

Sadly enough, that scares the pants off of you and your friends. That's what this is all about.

[reasonisfaith]

Natural processes can be duplicated by scientists. (I explained this already.) For example, DNA can be replicated in a test tube. Carnivores can be observed to use their specialized canine teeth in particularly adaptive ways.

But the derivation of a carnivorous species from an herbivorous one--speciation--is an alleged process so complicated by unknown objects and unknown events that the only way to believe in the process is through faith.

[Right Wing Professor]

I count no less than three replies from you to my last post. Please don't post to me again.

[Dimensio]

Do you actually have a reasoned rebuttal or are you just throwing a temper tantrum and calling me names because you don't like the fact that your initial claim has been exposed as absurd?

[He Rides A White Horse]

Temper tantrum?....anybody reading this thread who saw your memory lane post can easily see how inane it was. The only temper tantrum being throw is by crypto-liberals who are losing their war on Christmas, seeing people rebelling against lowering the age of consent, and most of all, the rejection of your Holy Grail, Evolution.

I'll ask again.....what have you done for anyone? Nothing, people are realizing it. Your secular humanism has been disasterous for this country, and you're on the run, which is why you and your allies are attacking morality and religion so furiously.

You have a Merry Christmas Dimensio; you and all your pals.

[He Rides A White Horse]

I'll post to whoever I want to, as long as I don't violate the rules here. So you can sit in the corner and pout.

You posted this article; you don't run Free Republic, and your article is subject to counter argument; free speech rules on FR......and your descending from slime arguments are subject to dissection.

Right Wing Professor? I guarantee you that you are a terror to any of your students who dare disagree with you. Which puts you squarely in the budding totalitarian group. Which supports my 'talking points' exactly. Have a nice day.

[Right Wing Professor]

You posted this article; you don't run Free Republic, and your article is subject to counter argument; free speech rules on FR......and your descending from slime arguments are subject to dissection.

You're not capable of dissecting anything. In fact, you can't even keep track of how many followups you've made to a single post.

Fine, you're on my virtual ignore list as an imbecile.

[RunningWolf]

I don't know what kind of point this guy is trying to make.

Some of these evo-cultists have responded ten times back at me to my one post. Or whatever point he is making it is poorly..,, poorly right wing.

Wolf

[He Rides A White Horse]

...and you are on my list as an anti-free speech, devolving, budding totalitarian.

[He Rides A White Horse]

He's upset that more and more people are rejecting his 'religion' which is what it is regardless of their denials.

People are turning away from such hopelessness, and it seems to bother him and his likes to no end. Let them fester in their darkness and pout in the corner as we restore America to its former glory as a country that believes in free speech, religious tolerance and inclusion of all in our fine Constitutional Republic. We were never meant to be run by a bunch of left wing activist judges and free speech suppressing 'Right wing' (more like Nazi) professors.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Keep the faith brother; they are on the run.

[Dimensio]

Temper tantrum?....anybody reading this thread who saw your memory lane post can easily see how inane it was.

You said that scientists should consider "everything". Those were your words, not mine. I merely provided an example that is, without question, a subset of "everything" to demonstrate that your claim was absurd. Rather than acknowledge that you spoke hastily, you attacked me even though I was simply satisfying the criteria that you set forth.

The only temper tantrum being throw is by crypto-liberals who are losing their war on Christmas,

Non-sequitur. I can see that you're losing this discussion if you have to bring in a completely irrelevant subject like this.

seeing people rebelling against lowering the age of consent,

And this. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with my original statement.

and most of all, the rejection of your Holy Grail, Evolution.

You're the one branching off into inane non-sequiturs and challenging my mental competence when I demonstrate that one of your previous claims is absurd, and I'm the one throwing a temper tantrum here?

I'll ask again.....what have you done for anyone?

Another non-sequitur, all because you are too much of a coward to acknowledge that you made a poorly thought-out statement.

When you can either defend your claim that scientists should consider everything while simultaneously explaining why they should not consider "everything" or admit that your initial statement about considering everything was in error, let me know. Until then you're wasting your time spewing nonsense about subjects that I did not address, all in a vain effort to distract from the fact that you were mistaken.

And people yell at me when I call creationists dishonest.

[RunningWolf]

Is this guy a scientist an atheist an evo-cultist whatever?

Or is he just a self ordained spokesperson for them??

Wolf

[He Rides A White Horse]

I'm done with them at this point.....they refuse to see they're religionists as well, refuse to consider any alternative, can't see how narrow-minded they are.

'Right Wing Professor' posts an article from the left wing New York Slimes of all places.

I don't care to debate with them anymore. If they think that they 'evolved' from some primordial slime, they're free to believe that.

I've thrown enough pearls to swine on this thread already.

[RunningWolf]

As you see there is not debate nor dialog with these knuckleheads.

Well now all the kooks will come in behind you and call you a liar coward, high five each other, bla bla all in the name of their cult and their false beliefs.

Wolf

[reasonisfaith]

"Well, gee, could that be because you have shown no example of any use of mathematical principles by proponents of ID?"

No. It's because no violation of mathematical principles by ID proponents have been shown here. I was not the one to introduce the topic of math in this thread.

I don't mind discussing math, however. My basic experience with calculus dates back to several years ago, but at the time I did find it somewhat entertaining.

[balrog666]