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To: CarolinaGuitarman
the world has patterns and processes whether there is an intelligence to understand them

Change whether to where. Two letters and we are in substantial agreement. 2500 years ago the sun went around the earth, but it wasn't the sun as we know it. It was a chariot or a phoenix bird. Then came a change in pattern. 500 years ago the sun went around the earth. Then came a change in pattern and the earth goes around the sun. 500 more years could bring another pattern and they will wonder how we could possibly not see reality as it really is. You are right the world has patterns and processes, but in addition we create this world in our minds, and no two minds agree completely. Nor should they says Emerson.

For a bad idea, Paley's metaphor sure has stuck around.

566 posted on 10/04/2005 7:13:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

" Change whether to where. "

No. The world has patterns and processes whether there is an intelligence to recognize it or not. There could be no intelligent being and the universe would still be what it is.

"2500 years ago the sun went around the earth, but it wasn't the sun as we know it. "

No, it didn't. People were wrong. The world existed as it is whether we knew it or not.

"You are right the world has patterns and processes, but in addition we create this world in our minds, and no two minds agree completely. Nor should they says Emerson."

The universe cares not what we think. It is.

" For a bad idea, Paley's metaphor sure has stuck around."

That is not evidence it is right. Lot's of false ideas persist.


567 posted on 10/04/2005 7:21:15 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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