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To: dmz

I catch musky and Northern pike all the time. they don't live out of water long. they are freakin fish for God's sake. We call them snakes because of the long body.

Those chinese Snake things ( I think those are what you are thinking of) haven't changed for centuries either. They were introducted to some ponds here in ND and on Ohio and are a pest fish because they do the same thing that walking catfish fish does, cross from pond to pond. The bad thing about them is that they eat all the other fish and take over the pond. then they go to the next. That's why they are banned here. they don't have lungs or any feet, they can go about two miles before they die I believe. They drained ponds around here to try kill them off, fearing that they would get into a major river.

I've had a catfish live for 36 hours out of the water. I forgot about it and was suprized to find it still alive. A tough fish isn't evidence of evolution though.


250 posted on 10/03/2005 2:09:40 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

we had the same problem down here in maryland, someone let a couple of them go, and they took over. we're finding them now in the potomac river as well.

i simply stated it to be an interesting phenomenon, one that stretches what it is to be called a fish by a little bit.

Yes they are indigenous to China and the name of the fish is (as I said), the northern snakehead.


253 posted on 10/03/2005 2:12:57 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Nathan Zachary
"Those chinese Snake things ( I think those are what you are thinking of) haven't changed for centuries either. They were introducted to some ponds here in ND and on Ohio and are a pest fish because they do the same thing that walking catfish fish does, cross from pond to pond. The bad thing about them is that they eat all the other fish and take over the pond. then they go to the next. That's why they are banned here. they don't have lungs or any feet, they can go about two miles before they die I believe. They drained ponds around here to try kill them off, fearing that they would get into a major river.

"I've had a catfish live for 36 hours out of the water. I forgot about it and was suprized to find it still alive. A tough fish isn't evidence of evolution though.

I take it that the way biologists (ichthyologists) check for lungs or float bladders by chasing fish across land to see how long they survive? I thought they dissected the fish and analyzed what they found within it before making claims.

Oh, btw, do the snakeheads die of asphyxiation or dehydration.

Is it necessary for a transitional organism to have fully developed lungs that allow it to survive totally on the oxygen from the air or should it have partially effective lungs that allow it to survive for a limited time out of water?

286 posted on 10/03/2005 3:59:03 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

"I catch musky and Northern pike ..."

Is that the Canadian spelling for muskie? If you fish for them (and they are a great catch!), you should spell it correctly.


320 posted on 10/03/2005 5:34:51 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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