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Returning to Dover [evolution trial in Dover, PA: week 2]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 October 2005 | TERESA MCMINN

Posted on 10/03/2005 6:22:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Ichneumon; PatrickHenry
When you get into collage You will learn new, better stuff.

I know the guy who wrote this has been nuked, but this classic has to be part of the "this is your brain on creationism" files.

461 posted on 10/04/2005 9:49:25 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Junior
Creationist "love" is very much like liberal "compassion".

(To paraphrase Israel Zangwill, forty years of liberal compassion/creationist love has made us very mean-spirited)

462 posted on 10/04/2005 9:59:08 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Bring back Modernman AND SeaLion AND Mylo!)
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To: RightWingNilla

But paste tasts GOOD!


463 posted on 10/04/2005 9:59:59 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Bring back Modernman AND SeaLion AND Mylo!)
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To: b_sharp
Who am I to argue with my personal deity?

That is one phrase that you can never hear too often.
464 posted on 10/04/2005 10:08:57 AM PDT by Vive ut Vivas (Deity in training.)
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To: RightWingNilla
If we can't understand "typos" how can we possibly tell design?

Are you serious? One can detect design without fully understanding the purposes of a designed product. That's like opening up the hood of a BMW. You know it's designed but you may not know what a certain component does.

465 posted on 10/04/2005 10:13:33 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
One can detect design without fully understanding the purposes of a designed product. That's like opening up the hood of a BMW. You know it's designed but you may not know what a certain component does.

I don't need to open the hood of a BMW to tell you what's in there is designed.

Seems that you are adept at detecting design in places you already expect to find design.

466 posted on 10/04/2005 10:24:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: RightWingNilla
I know the guy who wrote this has been nuked, but this classic has to be part of the "this is your brain on creationism" files.

I've already got more than I need of that stuff. If I collected all the whoppers it would overwhelm the list. Maybe someone else could devote himself to just such material.

467 posted on 10/04/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I didn't say you had to open the hood to detect design. You're engaging in meangingless banter.


468 posted on 10/04/2005 10:38:12 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

You're right. I should know better than to expect that you mean what you write.


469 posted on 10/04/2005 10:43:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: wallcrawlr
I was not a part of that old stuff yet I receive the heat because of it.

The other problem that many creationists have here is that the sources of their information deliberately mislead them. We recognize them when we see stuff like, "There are no transitional fossils," or "The second law of thermodynamics prevents evolution", or my favorite, "The laws of probability prove that evolution is impossible."

Some of these arguments were debunked in previous centuries yet they keep showing up here because hucksters keep presenting them on their websites, books and pamphlets. When we see these arguments we know we're talking to someone with no science background who's relying on someone who's taking advantage of them.

So some of the heat your receiving isn't actually aimed at you. You're just someone's pawn out here taking the heat for them while they count their cash in the background.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)

470 posted on 10/04/2005 10:47:18 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Right Wing Professor
I don't need to open the hood of a BMW to tell you what's in there is designed.

You are *totally* missing the point.

The 'typos' are things that we have recognized in nature as being mistakes. We know what functional genes look like. We know what retrotransposons look like. We know the tell tale signs of DNA that has undergone random mutation.

The fact is the majority of our DNA consists of these things. Things we are as confident as one could be in science that these are errors.

Now if you say maybe they are not...then there is no way to detect design even if it appeared to be.

471 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:18 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Right Wing Professor

You don't read and comprehend very well for a professor.


472 posted on 10/04/2005 10:49:57 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: RightWingNilla

Well, I say maybe they are not :-)


473 posted on 10/04/2005 10:56:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Well, I say maybe they are not :-)

Lets say maybe some are not, but some definitely are.

BTW - you work on 'Junk DNA'?

474 posted on 10/04/2005 11:08:27 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Nathan Zachary
Nice feet, where's the lungs?

Clarias batrachus (walking catfish) has a primitive sac structure within the gills that allow it to obtain atmospheric oxygen.

475 posted on 10/04/2005 11:27:34 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: plain talk
One can detect design without fully understanding the purposes of a designed product.

Designed or not designed?


476 posted on 10/04/2005 11:33:14 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: RightWingNilla
BTW - you work on 'Junk DNA'?

We work on such small bits of DNA, though, that they could be in a gene, or they could be junk.

477 posted on 10/04/2005 11:52:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Junior
It's Hedy Lamar!

"that's Hedley!"

</Blazing Saddles>

478 posted on 10/04/2005 11:58:58 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: wallcrawlr

Yup. That's me, third from the left, back row.


479 posted on 10/04/2005 11:59:44 AM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: PatrickHenry

"Festival of the Troll-who-trolls-no-more"


480 posted on 10/04/2005 12:03:00 PM PDT by longshadow
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