I apologize Hermann, my last reply to you was unduly harsh. I was simply reacting to gbcdoj's sudden lack of enthusiasm for the dialogue with his history of knowing some of the most obscure references imaginable and usually of dubious relation to the subject matter.
But maybe I can ask you and get an answer. Is there any legitimate reason for resisting a Pontiff in the history of the Church that you'd be willing to cite?
gbcdoj's sudden lack of enthusiasm for the dialogue
I was actually planning on replying to you tomorrow, but Hermann's response suffices (although why the need for a definition of "manifested"? Even without resorting to technical definitions, it would seem that my meaning was quite clear).