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To: murphE; Gerard.P; Hermann the Cherusker; sitetest; CouncilofTrent; dsc
Cardinal Seper to Mgr. Lefebvre

"1. Concerning the Ordo Missæ: a) A Catholic cannot cast doubt on the conformity with the doctrine of the faith of a sacramental rite promulgated by the Supreme Pastor; b) ... c) ...

"2. Your general declarations (on the authority of the 2nd Vatican Council and of Pope Paul VI) combine together into a praxis which leads to the question: are we not confronted by a schismatic movement? In fact, you ordain priests against the formal will of the Pope and without the "litterae dimissoriae" required by Canon Law - and you have continued after your suspension a divinis - you send these priests into priories where they exercise their ministry without the authorisation of the ordinary in place; you give addresses calculated to spread your ideas in dioceses in which the bishop refuses you his consent; with priests whom you have ordained, you are beginning, whether you wish to or not, to form a group calculated to become a dissident ecclesial community.

"3. You consider that the priests ordained by you have the jurisdiction provided for by Canon Law in cases of necessity. Is this not to argue as though the legitimate Hierarchy had ceased to exist?

"4. The Pope has the "potestas suprema iurisdictionis" "non solum in rebus quae ad fidem et mores sed etiam in iis quae ad disciplinam et regimen Ecclesiae per totum orbem diffusae pertinent" (Conc. Vat. I, Const. Pastor Aeternus, DS 3064)(30), thus the obedience which is due to him is not limited to doctrinal matters.

"5. By your statements on submission to the Council and to the post-conciliar reforms of Paul VI - statements in conformity with a whole pattern of behaviour and particularly illicit ordinations to the priesthood - you have fallen into grave disobedience which in strict logic leads to schism."

* Murphe, gerard, keep it up :)

Y'all give me excellent oppportunities to reveal the facts of the schism and how it is utterly opposed to Tradition.

I know y'all think you are doing a "good job" defending a schism and so this makes my task all the more serious and serious matters are fun :)

174 posted on 09/26/2005 8:47:42 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

You're really annoying. Please stop pinging me.


176 posted on 09/26/2005 9:03:46 AM PDT by CouncilofTrent (Quo Primum...)
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