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To: gbcdoj
Fr. Jungmann was a good historian and nowhere would he have suggested that the Missal of St. Pius V was a "new rite".

* Try reading "The Mass of the Roman Rite." In Vol one, pages 127 - 141 when he describes the new rite and how the Commission charged with creating it, among many other things, "The members of the Commission were not held back from doing away with added trimings which the pious mind considered untouchable, like the already traditional Marian insertions in the Gloria in excelsis. Finally, it was because of the humanistic artistic spirit that the Council did nothing...

In a few words Jungamn dissapates the fog of lies about the "immemorial Mass which never tossed out any tradition..blah, blah, blah

One who reads real Liturgical histories written by trained and renowned Ecclesiastical and Liturgical experts, like Jungmann, is immune from being influenced by the error-laden polemics of those written by lay converts - such as the ones by Davies - which have seduced many lost souls into abandoning Holy Mother Church for the schism.

141 posted on 09/25/2005 7:26:13 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
I have read The Mass of the Roman Rite. He doesn't call the Pius V Missal a "new rite", and yes, I know all about the removal of the Marian tropes to the Gloria, etc. That doesn't make it "new".
142 posted on 09/25/2005 7:41:59 AM PDT by gbcdoj (Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
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