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50 Reasons I Support the FairTax
President's Tax Panel - Comments | Spring 2005 | Kenneth J. Van Dellen

Posted on 09/02/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by pigdog

Comment: 50 Reasons I Support the FairTax (How many reasons can you give for supporting the present IRS tax system?)

Those Who Know the Facts Love the Fair Tax www.fairtax.org

FairTax and Individuals and Families (Family-friendly tax reform)

1. It allows workers to keep 100% of their pay, with nothing withheld the IRS or for Social Security and Medicare payments.

2. It is revenue neutral with the present income tax system, funding the federal budget at current levels.

3. It shifts the tax to consumption. Records show that consumption is more stable than income, therefore the tax revenue stream is likely to be a more stable and predictable amount.

4. It is progressive, a “prebate” of the tax amount up to the poverty level is given to everyone. This means that those spending below the poverty level have a net gain because the “prebate” exceeds the amount paid in taxes. (Under the present system the working poor pay the payroll tax even if they get a full refund of income tax withheld.)

5. It doesn’t tax pre-owned items – clothes, cars, homes. Only new items are taxed when sold by a business to an individual.

6. It is expected to remove an average of 22% of the cost of American made goods by removing the built-in payroll tax (the other 7.65% of earnings that employers pay), corporate income tax, and other business taxes that are now passed to consumers as an “embedded" tax of approximately 22% due to the cascading of income and payroll taxes paid by U.S. employers, at every step of production, to the U.S. Treasury. Competition will cause prices to fall by approximately that amount, on average.

7. It allows families to save more for home ownership, education, and retirement. An average family making $50,000 will have $7,500 more spendable income.

8. It removes the need for formal accounts of the 401(k), IRA, HSA, etc., varieties. Anyone, rich or poor, will be able to set up any kind of savings or investment account without regard to taxes or the government. No special knowledge of tax law is necessary.

9. It makes educational tuition a tax-free expenditure of tax-free income.

10. It eliminates the income tax and the IRS. Members of Congress and the public overwhelmingly agree that the current internal revenue code is cumbersome, intrusive, coercive, and inefficient.

11. It eliminates 90% of the cost of compliance. American families and American businesses waste an estimated $250 – $600 billion per year (and countless hours of time) doing the paperwork necessary to comply with the current tax code. That is roughly $1,000 – $2,000 annually for every man, woman and child in the U.S. (Businesses typically pass their tax bills and compliance costs on to the consumer, i.e., individuals and families.)

12. It’s simple, unambiguous, and certain, the opposite of the current tax code, 60,044 pages and counting.

13. It assures that no American will find, at the end of the year, a need to get a loan to pay taxes as an alternative to penalties, interest, or cheating.

14. The broader tax base comprises everyone spending money in the U.S., including the ten percent of our economy (an estimated $1 trillion) that today is underground or under the table. Under the FairTax, the illegal drug dealer will pay his tax just like the rest of us when he buys his sunglasses, BMW, and other items, as will those who work for cash and undocumented immigrants, all of whom receive government and societal benefits.

15. It encourages work by letting workers keep 100% of their earnings and giving a rebate, in addition, making the notion that “the more you work, the more money you have”, a reality, unlike the current system where welfare is lost when you go to work, so the first dollars earned after taxes just offset what a welfare recipient is currently receiving in assistance, so working is perceived as disadvantageous.

16. It allows more of the lower income families to become home owners by allowing a second job income above their current income (all tax free) to be applied to a mortgage. Money for down payments for homes is also saved totally tax free, causing it to accumulate faster.

17. It has the result that all lending in America will be at the equivalent of today’s tax exempt interest rates, which are 25%-30% less than today’s taxable home mortgage interest rates. This will create a huge boom in housing purchases and allow existing homeowners to refinance and reduce their cost of homeownership substantially.

18. It allows families to retain farms and businesses in the hands of those who built them through the elimination of the death tax.

19. It allows families to give tax-free assistance to one another by eliminating the gift tax.

20. It gives individuals (and businesses) the right to donate as much as they want to in a given year to charitable causes, without concern for exceeding an allowed limit on giving.

21. It encourages individuals to self-insure, making the health system more direct-pay (no 3rd party pay), thus bringing costs down.

22. It puts an end to the anxiety for honest taxpayers that begins soon after January 1 for most of use, culminating in wondering whether we’ve claimed everything we legally could and nothing we shouldn’t, all without raising questions at the IRS. It makes April 15 just another day. (Perhaps it will be a holiday after the FairTax is enacted!) FairTax and Social Security and Medicare

23. It eliminates the regressive payroll tax that hurts the poor. Currently, every one of us is taxed a minimum of 7.65% on our first-dollar of wages up to $90,000 (the cap for FICA, not Medicare), if we earn that much. It provides funding for Social Security and Medicare at a level equal to or greater than the present.

24. It provides that all 290 million Americans and 51 million visiting tourists fund Social Security and Medicare with their purchases. Today only 110 million workers fund these programs via deductions from their paychecks.

25. It assures that the wealthiest Americans will be voluntarily helping to fund social security with every last dollar they spend above the poverty level. Today, earnings are subject to FICA taxes only up to $90,000. The wealthiest Americans therefore do not pay into the system above that amount. If their earnings are from investments, no earnings fund the Social Security system.

FairTax and the Economy

26. It increases investment in business by eliminating the capital gains tax.

27. It allows for better planning by businesses, because they no longer have to consider tax implications for everything they do.

28. It makes higher employment or better compensation possible in the small business sector, where today it costs approximately three dollars in compliance costs to pay one dollar in payroll and income taxes.

29. It makes American products more competitive overseas by removing the embedded tax from them, thus lowering the prices of our exports, which compensates for low foreign wages.

30. By making our exports more competitive overseas, it lowers our balance of trade deficit and increases employment at home.

31. By removing the embedded tax from them, it makes American products more competitive with imports here, compensating for the low cost of imported products from which taxes have been removed before exportation to the U.S.

32. It encourages investment in companies located in the U.S., thus providing a home for money already in the U.S. and attracting more. The U.S. will be the most attractive tax-free haven in the world for doing business.

33. It encourages repatriation to the U.S. of money held by U.S. individuals and companies now in foreign countries, with no tax consequence. American companies will return from offshore and overseas.

34. It results in a windfall profit, likely to be invested in job-making businesses, for many of those holding taxable corporate high interest bonds at the time of passage of FairTax, since the bonds will not be taxed under FairTax. (Currently, a higher interest rate is usually paid to entice investors to buy the corporate bonds rather than go with the lower interest, but tax free, municipal bonds.)

35. It results in Federal Reserve rates being based on current consumption, which is rather stable, instead of future earnings, which are less predictable, resulting in surer inflation prevention.

36. It reduces production costs for farmers and other subsidized businesses, leading to a reduction in subsidies, thus reducing the federal budget.

37. It moves many individuals now providing tax advice (return preparation, advice, accounting, planning, and records maintenance) into an expansive economy where they will be producing goods and services. There they can add to the standard of living of all Americans and likely earn more than they do currently, instead of shuffling paper for the government (and not contributing anything economically to society).

FairTax and Churches and Non-profit Organizations

38. It frees churches and other non-profit organizations from the expense of filing tax returns and paying their half of Social Security and Medicare payments for employees. There will no longer be any 501(c) (3), 501(c) (4), etc., non-profit tax status, because there will be no more tax to be exempt from.

39. It restores to churches and non-profit organizations the 1st Amendment right to engage in free speech, without fear of losing their tax-free status. FairTax and Rights and Freedoms

40. It restores the 4th Amendment, protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures, from which the IRS presently is exempt.

41. It restores the 5th Amendment, which guarantees the right to due process. Under current systems the IRS has their own courts with their own set of rules not included in the 5th.

42. It restores individual privacy. The government no longer needs to know where you work, what you are earning, and what you are doing with it.

43. It relieves citizens of the risk of facing the shift in burden of proof that is so common with the current system, i.e., the taxpayer is guilty unless innocence can be proved, but even the IRS staff sometimes gives conflicting interpretations.

44. It eliminates the need to have a "marriage" clarification declaring who you live with, as that no longer has any bearing at all on a state or federal sales tax.

45. It eliminates the need for courts to decide which divorced parent gets to take the tax deduction for children.

46. Without FICA to pay, most states, counties, municipalities, and school districts will see a large increase in their state budget revenues, additionally lowering the overall tax burden (State & Federal) for most Americans.

47. It eliminates the administrative costs incurred by states in collection of state sales taxes because states will piggyback the state tax collection onto the national tax collection, for which they are compensated by the FairTax ¼% administrative cost give-back. (Retailers receive an equal amount for collecting the FairTax.)

FairTax and Politics<\b>

48. It cleans up a major flaw in campaign financing, eliminating campaign donations for "tax favors".

49. It eliminates wrangling in Congress over tax cuts, the tax code, and who is or is not paying a fair share of the tax bill, providing more time for debate on more productive issues.

FairTax and the Environment

50. It’s good for the environment. Reportedly, the IRS sends out 8 billion pages of forms and instructions each year. Laid end to end, they would stretch 28 times around the earth. Nearly 300,000 trees are cut down yearly to produce the paper for all the IRS forms and instructions. Also, since it taxes only new items, it would encourage buying tax-free pre-owned cars, clothes, furniture, houses, etc. Reuse is good for the environment, too.

Kenneth J. Van Dellen (with help from friends)


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1 posted on 09/02/2005 11:01:13 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog

Ain't gonna happen.


2 posted on 09/02/2005 11:02:37 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: ancient_geezer; Principled; kevkrom; phil_will1; rwrcpa1; groanup; Bigun; Taxman; Paul C. Jesup; ...

Perhaps some of the Squirrels would like to post their reasons in support of the Status Quo???


3 posted on 09/02/2005 11:02:58 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: Pondman88

That's a PREDICTION not a reason to support the Status Quo.


4 posted on 09/02/2005 11:04:30 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: Pondman88

exactly.


5 posted on 09/02/2005 11:07:10 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: pigdog

Nice post


6 posted on 09/02/2005 11:09:28 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: Sonny M

An unbelievable wordy and precise descriptions of all the reasons you're willing to continue under the yoke of he Income Tax.

VERY persuasive ...


7 posted on 09/02/2005 11:09:29 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog

Fairtax seems ok, but the current code is entrenched with multiple lobbying interests to keep it. Secondly, you tell people, the average person, that you are going to screw around with the tax code they have become used to all their lives....no way, no how.

It's akin to legalizing pot....makes perfect sense, but ain't gonna happen.


8 posted on 09/02/2005 11:11:07 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: pigdog

Great idea, but the govt will never return that much of our freedom. Our leaders have us right where they want us--shackled to their monstrously bloated spending programs.


9 posted on 09/02/2005 11:11:45 AM PDT by American Quilter (Set up, suckered in, pushed around...)
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To: Pondman88

Actually I'm glad that some of my relatives were willing to oppose the English and their policies in the late 1700's (at considerable risk to their lives and fortunes) or we might be drinking warm beer now.

Glad to see the American spirit still lives (?) in you???


10 posted on 09/02/2005 11:15:33 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog

Steve Forbes never quite made it to the Presidency on his flat tax proposal. I see little support for radical tax code changes.


11 posted on 09/02/2005 11:20:21 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: pigdog; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; Zon; ...

Patrick Henry, Virginia Ratifying Convention June 12, 1788:

Federalist #21:

"Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. "

"It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess.

They prescribe their own limit, which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed - that is, an extension of the revenue."

 

A Taxreform bump for you all.

If you would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

legislation => H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


12 posted on 09/02/2005 11:20:24 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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I'm a realist not an closed eyed idealist, maybe I am to cynical, but reality is reality, and I know they will never push the fair tax, as long as that darn amendment allowing the income tax is still in the constituion, repeal that first, then get back to me, in the mean time, I'd rather have a flat tax.


13 posted on 09/02/2005 11:20:51 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Pondman88
Ain't gonna happen.

Damn Straight.
The Tax Attorneys make huge donations to the Dems in exchange for blocking anything of this sort.
The IRS will not go away, ever. The Govt is self serving and self propagating and NEVER gets smaller, only bigger.
Corporate America is used to having the legal bribery system that allows them favors in exchange for "Campaign Contributions"(politicials get to pocket what they don't use)
Bottom line is that it does not serve polititians so it will not happen.
14 posted on 09/02/2005 11:25:54 AM PDT by leftcoastlibertarian
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To: pigdog

I'll post you one big reason not to:

I've worked hard, paid taxes, and saved and invested, to where I have, if not a fortune at least a comfortable retirement account - already taxed.

Now this plan will tax all that money again, at confiscatory rates, since a federal consumption tax will be ON TOP OF all state and local sales taxes.

("Squirrel" my @ss, nutcase!)


15 posted on 09/02/2005 11:28:14 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: pigdog

OK, here's how I'd support this:
Include a plan where I'd get a rebate for income taxes I've already paid on my savings.


16 posted on 09/02/2005 11:30:25 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Pondman88; Sonny M
you mean like that women's suffrage thing?


I thank God that Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B Anthony, Harriot Tubman and a host of others (including our Founding Fathers) weren't naysayers like you.

"You will miss 100% of the shots you never take." (thank you to the famous hockey player that my husband always quotes whose name I can't remember)
17 posted on 09/02/2005 11:35:35 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious
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To: pigdog

I miss CHIEF Negotiator.


18 posted on 09/02/2005 11:35:35 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: pigdog

Glad to see the American spirit still lives (?)

They had the same problem back in 1776, seems there will be always those practical people who will continue to choose to suffer rather than push for change.

"mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
Declaration of Independance, 1776.

But then that is part of the nature of what is wrong with an income tax, so we should not be surprised as such reactions.

 

I discussed the importance of abolishing the income tax because of its tendency to form a habit of servility in the souls of a people that accepts it.

Servility of soul is bad not only in itself, it is also an open door through which will soon walk the abuses of ambitious government power.

Leaders who find themselves with governmental power over a servile people will be quick to conclude that such a people exist to serve them.

Alan Keyes 1999

 

It is not without reason the income tax is the choosen vehicle for those who would expand the power of government over the freedom of the people.

19 posted on 09/02/2005 11:36:44 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: pigdog

I'm a huge fan of 15. I hadn't thought of it that way before.


20 posted on 09/02/2005 11:38:43 AM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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