Posted on 09/02/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by pigdog
Ain't gonna happen.
Perhaps some of the Squirrels would like to post their reasons in support of the Status Quo???
That's a PREDICTION not a reason to support the Status Quo.
exactly.
Nice post
An unbelievable wordy and precise descriptions of all the reasons you're willing to continue under the yoke of he Income Tax.
VERY persuasive ...
Fairtax seems ok, but the current code is entrenched with multiple lobbying interests to keep it. Secondly, you tell people, the average person, that you are going to screw around with the tax code they have become used to all their lives....no way, no how.
It's akin to legalizing pot....makes perfect sense, but ain't gonna happen.
Great idea, but the govt will never return that much of our freedom. Our leaders have us right where they want us--shackled to their monstrously bloated spending programs.
Actually I'm glad that some of my relatives were willing to oppose the English and their policies in the late 1700's (at considerable risk to their lives and fortunes) or we might be drinking warm beer now.
Glad to see the American spirit still lives (?) in you???
Steve Forbes never quite made it to the Presidency on his flat tax proposal. I see little support for radical tax code changes.
Patrick Henry, Virginia Ratifying Convention June 12, 1788:
- "the oppression arising from taxation, is not from the amount but, from the mode -- a thorough acquaintance with the condition of the people, is necessary to a just distribution of taxes. The whole wisdom of the science of Government, with respect to taxation, consists in selecting the mode of collection which will best accommodate to the convenience of the people."
"Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. "
"It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess.
They prescribe their own limit, which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed - that is, an extension of the revenue."
A Taxreform bump for you all.
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John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.
legislation => H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.Refer for additional information:
I'm a realist not an closed eyed idealist, maybe I am to cynical, but reality is reality, and I know they will never push the fair tax, as long as that darn amendment allowing the income tax is still in the constituion, repeal that first, then get back to me, in the mean time, I'd rather have a flat tax.
I'll post you one big reason not to:
I've worked hard, paid taxes, and saved and invested, to where I have, if not a fortune at least a comfortable retirement account - already taxed.
Now this plan will tax all that money again, at confiscatory rates, since a federal consumption tax will be ON TOP OF all state and local sales taxes.
("Squirrel" my @ss, nutcase!)
OK, here's how I'd support this:
Include a plan where I'd get a rebate for income taxes I've already paid on my savings.
I miss CHIEF Negotiator.
Glad to see the American spirit still lives (?)
They had the same problem back in 1776, seems there will be always those practical people who will continue to choose to suffer rather than push for change.
"mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
Declaration of Independance, 1776.
But then that is part of the nature of what is wrong with an income tax, so we should not be surprised as such reactions.
| I discussed the importance of abolishing the income tax because of its tendency to form a habit of servility in the souls of a people that accepts it. Servility of soul is bad not only in itself, it is also an open door through which will soon walk the abuses of ambitious government power. Leaders who find themselves with governmental power over a servile people will be quick to conclude that such a people exist to serve them. |
It is not without reason the income tax is the choosen vehicle for those who would expand the power of government over the freedom of the people.
I'm a huge fan of 15. I hadn't thought of it that way before.
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