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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

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To: TexKat

Thanks, TexKat. Wierd language, huh?


341 posted on 08/27/2005 12:56:44 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: LongViewSC

re: #205

a friend that does gang related work thought it might be a "spread legs" sign used to identify members of a date-rape ring/"gang", and he said that several months ago when the pics first surfaced...i have no idea, but with the info coming out now, it seems more applicable than the day it was said


342 posted on 08/27/2005 12:58:21 PM PDT by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: Malichi

Amen Malichi.


343 posted on 08/27/2005 1:07:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Was Deepak developing film of the naked girls at the internet cafe?

WOW! Excellent question! That would tie all of those guys together even further. Plus, it ties Croes in there. (see bleow)
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http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEpersons.html

"Cyberzone li Internet Cafe"…. Tel: (297) 588-3630.… 70 East Sabana Blanco. (Located at Eagle Beach near the “Amsterdam Manor Beach Resort” and the “Seaport Marketplace Mall”….hours open=Mon-Sat 9am-11pm & Sun 2-10pm. (“wi-fi“ internet user rates = US$6 for 1hr, US$10 for 1 day or US$35 for 7 days)) Where DEEPAK was employed before his 6-9 arrest. Main Suspect J. SLOOT, Current Suspect S. KALPOE, and Current Suspect STEVEN CROES all frequent. The KALPOE Suspect’s mommy, RAMIREZ, claims that SATISH normally leaves 30-35 minutes prior to the “Cyberzone Internet Café” closing time to pick up DEEPAK in DEEPAK’s car, a silver “Honda.”

On 7-11 BETH mentioned she had lunch near the “Cyberzone Internet Café” and as she walked by she glanced in, but did not want to go inside to speak with Current Suspect D. KALPOE.

On 8-8 BETH was lunching in the same area as the “Internet Café” that Current Suspect D. KALPOE works at when someone from the media (apparently “NBC”) reminded her that the “Internet Café” was nearby. She went inside the “Internet Café” and used a computer, then spoke with him. The encounter lasted some 90 minutes and was filmed. BETH told “CBS” she challenged Current Suspect D. KALPOE to tell her what he knows about the case. In telling of the tense encounter, she asserted that Natalee was sexually assaulted before she vanished. “There were customers on the computer and he was seated behind the cash register, and I guess he thought he was going to have a normal day at work.” “I wanted to ask him, Joran had admitted sexual assaults that he had committed against Natalee, and I wanted to ask Deepak: Did he participate, or did he try to help her?” “He couldn't answer me. He could only look down at the ground.” “I told him you’ve got an opportunity. I’m Natalee's mother. I’m standing right here before you. You need to tell me.” “I saw his eyelids pretty much the whole time that I was there, and I would have to tell him to hold your head up and look at me when I’m speaking with you.” “He couldn’t do that. He would either not respond or he would just tell me that his lawyer had advised him not to speak with me.” “I expected him, if he had no involvement, if he was not a participant in the sexual acts committed against my daughter, that yes, he could have come forward and said, ‘No,’ and looked me in the eye. He couldn’t do that.” “I let him know, under no circumstances, that there is nothing that I’m going to refrain from asking, and I’m going to ask every question, and I’m going to stop at nothing, and I will continue to, and he said, ‘The media hasn’t seen this side of you,’ and I said, ‘I’ve been saving it for you, Deepak.’” BETH said that Current Suspect D. KALPOE, if he was innocent in the disappearance of NATALEE might not only be interested in offering whatever help/information he could--which he did not offer--but, when she reminded him that any help he did provide might entitle him to receive up to the US$ 1,250,000.00 reward if NATALEE is found, to which Current Suspect D. KALPOE told BETH that he did not need any money.

BETH also said, “I’m always going to hold out hope, no matter how bad it looks. You can’t prepare yourself for that, and I don’t have to.” BETH also said she believes there was a level of ineptitude on the part of Aruban authorities, but she is more optimistic, now that a group of investigators from HOLLAND has become involved.

On 8-9 BETH went to the “Cyberzone Internet Café” to speak with Current Suspect D. KALPOE again, but he was not there. BETH stated that she may visit him again, because she has eaten at a nearby restaurant about 3 times. BETH also noticed that when she spoke with Current Suspect D. KALPOE on 8-8 that he told her that the manager of the “Cyberzone Internet Café” told him to take down the reward poster for NATALEE that had been approved for posting in the business window 2 months ago.

344 posted on 08/27/2005 1:11:49 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe; All
Natalee Hollaway's mother expects answers

8/27/2005, 2:50 p.m. CT
By MARGARET WEVER 
The Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Natalee Hollaway's mother said Saturday she believes "we are going to get answers" in the nearly three-month-old disappearance of the vacationing U.S. teenager after the arrests of two brothers who were previously detained and released in the case.

Satish and Deepak Kalpoe were arrested Friday on suspicion of involvement in premeditated murder and rape of the 18-year-old honors student, Aruba's prosecutor's office said. The Surinamese brothers were arrested after new evidence emerged, the office said, without elaborating.

"I was pumped up at the news," Beth Holloway Twitty told The Associated Press by telephone from her home in Birmingham, Alabama. "The strongest thing I felt was that we are going to get answers."

Holloway Twitty said she didn't know what evidence authorities had on the brothers but said their re-arrests seemed to support the family's suspicions.

Holloway Twitty said she didn't know what evidence authorities had on the Kalpoes but called their arrests a vindication for the teen's family, which was angered by a judge's decision in July to release the brothers for lack of evidence linking them to the teen's May 30 disappearance.

"We've worked so hard for three months to figure out what happened to Natalee," Holloway Twitty said. "I thought those (Kalpoe) boys never should have been released. When they were ... I was devastated."

Holloway Twitty said she was at home this weekend to visit her 16-year-old son and would return to Aruba next week.

The prosecutor's office also said the Kalpoes were suspected of other offenses, but they did not provide details. No details were disclosed about a third man who authorities said was arrested Friday with the Kalpoes.

Holloway Twitty said she wasn't surprised by the arrest of the third man, who she identified only as "Freddy," saying police and FBI agents had repeatedly mentioned him to her as a "person of interest" in the case.

Holloway Twitty said the suspect was a friend of 18-year-old Joran van der Sloot, who has been detained since June 9 in the disappearance of Holloway. She said the man lived near the van der Sloots' home in Noord and had previously been questioned as a witness.

A judge ruled Friday that prosecutors had enough evidence to hold the three men for at least eight days while they build their case, said Elgin Zeppenveldt, a lawyer for Satish Kalpoe.

"We are appealing the decision, because the prosecution is withholding documents from us," Zeppenveldt said.

The July release of Satish, 18, and Deepak, 21, was one of a series turns in the case that have included discoveries of possible physical evidence or witnesses that later turned out to be false leads.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Alabama, was last seen leaving a bar with the Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot on the final night of a high school graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island. Extensive searches of the island have produced no sign of the teen.

345 posted on 08/27/2005 1:11:58 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: theophilusscribe; justche

I *thought* the "We can fix her" was more along the lines of "Whatever happened, we can fix her." This was about the time of some ugly disinformation.


346 posted on 08/27/2005 1:15:24 PM PDT by ftriggerf
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To: theophilusscribe; maggief
Thanks, TexKat. Wierd language, huh?

See maggief's post #309.

347 posted on 08/27/2005 1:18:10 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief

So Beto is the brother of the Miami-based pornographer?


348 posted on 08/27/2005 1:22:00 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: ftriggerf

I hope so. To think of them having to see those pictures . . . So horrible . . .


349 posted on 08/27/2005 1:24:30 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: maggief; TexKat; truthluva

Do we know who the others are?

fefi = ?Gilliam van der Straaten? ?Melody?
beto = Alberto Levy
jojo = Joran?
kk = 2 Kalpoes?
loca = Freddie


350 posted on 08/27/2005 1:30:33 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: All

someone has posted the latest installment of the aruba lesbian marriage saga as a thread of its own

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471971/posts


351 posted on 08/27/2005 1:47:38 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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klaasend
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1793&start=640
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:23 pm

Some say this is Lorenzo's van:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/lorenzocarcopy.jpg


352 posted on 08/27/2005 1:51:05 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: truthluva; Dolphy

Look at #176 (courtesy of Dolphy)


353 posted on 08/27/2005 2:01:46 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: truthluva; Dolphy

oooops! I mean look at #333


354 posted on 08/27/2005 2:07:42 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies; Dolphy

Gross!!!


355 posted on 08/27/2005 2:24:10 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: demkicker

Yup. Did you notice the monkeys?


356 posted on 08/27/2005 2:33:35 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies
Lovely ambiance at C&C's.
357 posted on 08/27/2005 2:38:14 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dark Skies

I saw the Monkeys. Hmmm... Simian?? Isn't a simian a primate?


358 posted on 08/27/2005 2:44:41 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dark Skies

Hey...Maybe Carlos and Charlie are Shango and Simian. lol


359 posted on 08/27/2005 2:45:33 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dark Skies

Did you notice the Red walls with white trim in the pictures of C&C's = Shango's colors.


360 posted on 08/27/2005 2:50:24 PM PDT by juzcuz
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