Posted on 08/16/2005 9:14:09 AM PDT by SC33
Democratic hopefuls for 2008 are sensing how vulnerable President Bush is on border control. The latest sign: New Mexico's politically shrewd governor, Bill Richardson, has made a partial about-face on the issue -- at least in words -- and is throwing money and attention at his state's southern border. If he makes a national comeback from the Energy Department security scandals that all but ruined his reputation in the final years of the Clinton administration, it will owe in part to a seeming shift on border control that mirrors the one that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton made in December and then reneged upon.
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Agree, Republicans better get their house in order on this issue.
Of course, the national Communist, er Democratic Party is in the same boat as Republicans...they are all over the map on immigration, as well. The question is, which party has the most to lose...not sure I know the answer.
they'll come up with legislation...I'm sure they're going to wait out the Republicans who are now coming with feeble attempts at appeasing the voters while keeping the borders open
So you oppose Tancredo and Kyl/Connyer then?
LaRazaJohnnie, your trollish leftist nature has been exposed. You're the one repeating La Raza talking points, calling those who want the borders closed as "anti immigrant".
Its hilarious to see the rant you've given, because in your previous post you said "However, if this will actually get a rational discuss going instead of the childish emotional flame outs that are the usual fair,". Whoops!!
What is there to duck, LaRazaJohnnie? I don't care what the democrats plan is.
The question is, why do you purposefully advance lies about the terrorists being here legally and spew leftist talking labels like "anti immigration"? What is your agenda, LaRazaJohnnie?
So which group do YOU work for? DNC? Moveon? ACTUP? Since you continually refuse to actually address the question and instead launch into hysterics anytime anyone asks you a question, I suspect you are a fraud. I suspect YOU are the Member of La Raza acting like a bigot to discredit any discussion of illegal immigration. So, quit DUCKING. ANSWER the questions.
What is the Democrat Party Plan on Immigration?
What legislation on the issue has any Democrat put up?
How clever, LaRazaJohnnie. You learned how to use the cut and paste feature! Too bad you have no reading comprehension and have ignored my reply.
Belay that.
What is the Democrat Party Plan on Immigration?Why do you keep asking that question? It has been answered many times.
No, you have NOT answered it EVER. All you do is engage in childish flame outs. Answer the QUESTIONS.
What is the Democrat Party Plan on Immigration?
What Legislation has any Democrat advanced on the issue?
No official DNC party line on immigration reform that I am aware of.
There, does it sound different coming from me?
Ok here is the header from Congressman Tancredo's website. Do you support this? Why?
WASHINGTON, D.C.; Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) introduced the comprehensive REAL GUEST ACT. The bill will create a temporary guest worker plan without offering amnesty and will enhance border security through increased technology and resources.
Ok here is the header from Congressman Tancredo's website. Do you support this? Why?
WASHINGTON, D.C.; Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) introduced the comprehensive REAL GUEST ACT. The bill will create a temporary guest worker plan without offering amnesty and will enhance border security through increased technology and resources.
Well, my plan would be to use the National Guard as it was intended, not as reserves for the Army. Of course this would entail building up the regular forces to an adequate level to compensate, and probably increasing benefits to encourage recruiting and retention.
If the Guard couldn't handle it, change Posse Comitatus to allow our military to protect us, by securing the border. It is ludicrous for us not to be able to use OUR military to protect OUR borders.
Uh, on an unrelated note, could you please use the accepted form of using italic tags when you are quoting from someone else's post, because I'm getting really confused as to what you're saying versus what they're saying.
Just type the less-than sign < then an i then a greater-than sign >, then paste their quote, then do the same as above at the end of the quote but with a / in front of the i. Basically, < i > but with no spaces, then the quote, then < / i > but with no spaces. Then, break the paragraph with < p > but with no spaces.
I will support anyone who will take action to stop the illegals at the border and get rid of the ones already here...And if that reduces the field to my barber, who, by the way, has some pretty good ideas, he'll get my vote...
Yes. I support Tancredo's plan.
Because it is a true guest worker program. The applicant can come, work then return home. That is provided no American wants the job.
and the best part:
Sec. 104—Requirements for aliens seeking H nonimmigrant status.
"Sign a legally enforceable affidavit attesting that the alien:
Understands that he/she is ineligible to change or to adjust status to any other immigrant or nonimmigrant classification;
Acknowledges that a child born to the alien during his/her stay in the United States will not be granted automatic birthright citizenship, unless the child’s other parent is a US citizen or lawful permanent resident;
Waives eligibility for all Federal, State, and local non-emergency government assistance;.....
Well, that happens on a regular basis around Florida and I think probably South Texas around Galveston, etc. The Coast Guard does a pretty good job of containing this, when they are allowed to act without political constraints. Any plan is not foolproof, but we definitely need a better plan and a better effort that what we've had. It's just like a football game, if your game-plan is not working, then you've got to switch if you're going to win.
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