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To: ExitPurgamentum
"... The best economic outcome is efficient allocation of resources, and tariffs, taxes --- any intererence -- creates distortions and makes outcomes suboptimal..."

I wonder why it is folly for a family to live beyond their means, e.g. the big screen TV's flying off the shelves, but virtue for a nation to do so, e.g. 700 billion dollar trade deficit?

You have decried lack of savings by Americans, but many people are following the signal given by their government. The big screen TV is taxed very little by the federal government, and many exports to America are exempted from taxes by their own governments. And if they finance the TV with an equity mortgage they get a tax deduction on the interest they pay for the TV.

In contrast, were a family to forgo consumption by sticking with their older TV in favor of savings what happens. The interest they earn, already low, is taxed at the highest rate they pay.

Tax policy is a telling our population not to save, but instead to consume, and they do. So we get a massive trade deficit and a low savings rate. I do not see how it is better to put a tariff on the labor I export to my employer than it is to put a tax on goods imported from nations that do not provide reciprocal access to their own markets for the USA.
619 posted on 08/03/2005 11:40:36 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: fallujah-nuker
You have decried lack of savings by Americans, but many people are following the signal given by their government. The big screen TV is taxed very little by the federal government,

I am sorry if my post was unclear. I did not decry the lack of savings as much as lack of investment in ourselves: learning new computer skills, a technology adjacent to our own, a foreign language, etc. --- all this make one more competitive. We gave children terrific education up until 1950s-60s, when feel-good orientation replaced results-oriented approach. We even deal with illiteracy now. How do you think illiterate people can compete?

were a family to forgo consumption by sticking with their older TV in favor of savings what happens. The interest they earn, already low, is taxed at the highest rate they pay.

This is only a part of equation. The family that does not save still wants medical care. It demands it from the employer. The employer says "no" be not hiring them. What is the cost of that TV? Was it better to save to spend on that TV.

And that is what appears to happen now. People want to have their cake (big-screen TVs, big houses, etc) and eat it too (gimme health care, education for my kids). These demands make our, American labor more expensive, and the jobs go elsewhere.

620 posted on 08/03/2005 12:48:21 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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