Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat
Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.
AP photo
That's what I thought I heard as well.
Thanks to all the readers who wanted to help out, especially Sjoerd who provided the translation below. Tom and Red at Scared Monkeys are good guys and colleagues - but I'm wondering if someone didn't juiice up the translation on them just a little bit without their knowing, or perhaps just make it at least a little more inflammatory than it was. Either that, or mine was watered down.
Comments later, perhaps. I'm in a rush.
Tieners VS feesten vooral op Aruba
door onze correspondent Nina Jurna
ORANJESTAD - De op Aruba vermiste tiener Natalee Holloway wordt in de media neergezet als een keurig, onschuldig, conservatief meisje van achttien dat op schoolreisje ging. Geen meisje dat zich op Aruba zou uitleven. Maar is dat wel realistisch?
Arubanen weten het: maandelijks komen duizenden Amerikaanse jongeren naar het eiland voor seks, drugs en drank. Op Aruba mag je, in tegenstelling tot thuis in Amerika, al op je zestiende drinken en voor een jointje beland je niet in de gevangenis. ,,Hier doen ze alles wat ze thuis niet mogen en zeker niet kunnen'', vertelt Gijs van 't Hullenaar. Hij is manager van enkele bars en nachtclubs, zoals van Moomba Beach, een populaire strandtent pal naast het hotel Holiday Inn, waar Natalee Holloway logeerde.
Los
Van 't Hullenaar schetst een duidelijk beeld van de Amerikanen zoals hij ze tijdens zijn horecacarrière op het eiland heeft leren kennen. ,,Ze kennen geen grenzen. Ze gaan helemaal los. Ze drinken abnormaal veel, ze blowen en gebruiken vaak ook meer drugs. Ook de meiden. Die zijn misschien nog wel erger dan de jongens. Ze flirten met de barkeepers en komen vragen om gratis drank. 'Als we niets hoeven te betalen, zetten we je tent op stelten en maken we een leuk feestje' zeggen ze dan.''
In Amerika mogen jongeren vanaf hun 21e verjaardag alcohol drinken en tot die tijd komen ze ook geen bar binnen. Op Aruba gelden de veel soepeler Nederlandse regels. ,,De jonge Amerikanen komen niet gewoon gezellig de bar binnen om wat te drinken; nee, ze willen stomdronken worden. Soms leggen ze gewoon een pakketje dollars op de bar en zeggen: 'geef me iets voor dit geld waar ik zo snel mogelijk dronken van word'.''
In de zaak van de vermiste Amerikaanse studente Natalee Holloway werd Van 't Hullenaar ook verhoord. Tegenover de politie en ook in een uitzending van de Amerikaanse televisiezender Fox heeft hij de reputatie van de Amerikaanse jeugd niet onder stoelen of banken gestoken. ,,Heel wat Amerikaanse ouders weten waarschijnlijk niet wat hun kinderen hier op Aruba allemaal uitspoken.''
Hypocriet
Hij vindt het hypocriet nu net te doen alsof het er hier allemaal zo netjes aan toe gaat, hoe vreselijk het ook is dat het meisje wordt vermist. ,,Maar dat ze stomdronken uit de nachtclub kwam, dat hoor je wel hier op het eiland, maar lees je niet terug in de Amerikaanse pers. Natuurlijk zeggen alle ouders: zulke dingen doet mijn dochter niet. Maar dat zeiden mijn ouders vroeger ook over mij.''
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Above all US teenagers party on Aruba
by our correpondent Nina Jurna (Nederlands Dagblad)
ORANJESTAD- The missing teenager Natalee Hollway is being described in the media as a tidy, innocent, conservative eighteen year old girl on a graduation trip. Not a girl who would be a party animal on Aruba . But is this surely realistic?
Arubans know this: every month thousands of American juniors bcome to the island for sex, drugs and booze. On Aruba you are allowed, contrary to the situation at home in America , drink when you are sixteen and for (smoking) a joint you will not end up in jail. ”Here they do everything what they are not allowed to do at home and surely can’t do at home”, Gijs van 't Hullenaar says. As a manager he owns several bar and nightclubs, like Moomba Beach , a popular beach club right next to the Hollyday Inn where Natalee Holloway was staying.
Loose
Van ’t Hullenaar illustrates a clear image of the Americans as he has gotten to know them throughout his career on the island. “They have no limits. They’re going totally loose. They are drinking excessively, they smoke pot and often use other drugs as well. Likewise the girls. May be they are even worse than the boys. Thet flirt with bartenders and ask for free drinks. “We will cheer up this place and make a big party if we don’t have to pay”, they say.
In America juniors are permitted to have alcoholic beverages from age 21 and before that they cannot even visit a bar. On Aruba we have the much more flexible Dutch regulations. “The young Amricans don’t just just enter a bar to socialize and enjoy a drink; no, they want to become blind drunk. Sometimes they just drop a pacjage of dollars on the bar and say: “Give me something for this that makes me drunk fast”.
Van ’t Hullenaar was heard in the case of the missing American graduate Natalee Holloway. In talks with the police and also during a Fox interview he didn’t restrain in describing the reputation of the American youth. “A lot of American parents probably have no idea what their children are messing with here on Aruba ”.
Hypocrisy
He (Van ’t Hullenaar) thinks it is hypocritical to pretend that everything that happens here is going so decent and proper over here, not to mention the dreadful fact of the missing girl. “But that she left the nightclub ‘blind drunk’, yes that’s what we hear on the island, but you never read this in the American press. Ofcourse all parents say: “My daughter doesn’t do these things. But that is what my parents used to say about me too”.
Posted by Dan in Natalee Holloway | Permalink
I thought that is what I heard her say.
Yes, apparently they type every response during interrogation, and then the suspect signs at the end of the session.
I don't ever remember Sipowitz letting a suspect in Pokey Room 1 read the statements of a suspect in Pokey Room 2!
We have to give the aruban LE and Justice system a special name. What a worldclass act they are.
I agree Gimme. I'm sick to death of gingersnaps claptrap!! Corruption and collusion is rampant here and it takes next to no discernment to see it. This Aruban Police force are a collection of bungling buffoons. Great system huh? It CANNOT be questioned as nobody knows what is or is not going on. Beth, Jug,and Greta have done a better investigative job than the entire LE of Aruba. The Dutch marines and the Dutch pilots are just about 35 days late.!!
He seems to be painting with a really broad brush; using his example, I suppose we can all assume that ALL the kids in Aruba are freaking murderers and liars, huh?
This Dude is not exactly encouraging tourism on that island is he. Any parent reading his account would cancel any trips there with kids.
What a dunce.
They've messed that thread up. I'll wait for the transcript.
That's the way I read it. Those people over there can't get their days and nights or noons and midnights straightened out. LOL
Haven't sent divers down b/c of rough seas. I would imagine PVDS is sweating a river if he has heard the rumor.
Oh great, now you've just prompted a whole slew of Charles Croes FReeper fan-club posts.
Yeah, they did a thorough cleaning of
the cars at the car wash, before
going home that night.
Therefore, by the time Beth got to
Aruba.....and LE confiscated the
cars.....evidence had been destroyed.
I'm leaving this office freepers but will be back as soon as I get home.!! CO
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.