[GarySpFc]

We KNOW they said she and Joran had SEX in the car.

Where did you hear or read they had sex in the car? I have read all posts since the first day, and I never saw anything like that. I do remember one of the brother said Joran had his hand in Natalee's blouse.

[BamaBlue]

PvdS said that in an interview in a Dutch language newspaper. The translation has been disputed in that it could mean something less than actual sexual relations (in the Clinton sense)(that is just making out).

[ga medic]

They said they had sex at the beginning, and then changed it to say that they were just "making out". I guess the dutch words for sex and making out are either the same or similar and you must understand the context before you can determine the accurate meaning.

[johnb838]

I read they used the word "vrijen" which must loosely translate to "fooling around" because they said it can mean anything from kissing to intercourse.