Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: kcat

I agree! The trouble is, the seeming mob control of the island. With huge money laundering ops and drug ops going on there, I imagine the island people would be afraid to say anything about anything to outsiders. It's not "happy island" for everyone, I'm thinking.

The DEA did a bust the other day, they need to do more, to really send a message. I wish the Twitty/Holloways had the pull.

241 posted on 06/30/2005 2:33:46 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: monkeywrench

Yep, you certainly cannot count on police protection if you give up any info.

242 posted on 06/30/2005 2:40:16 PM PDT by kcat

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To: Lizarde

I agree that lies include too much detail. I no longer believe Natalee was even at the beach. She thought she was getting into a taxi to be taken to the hotel. They took her elsewhere. The cell call is the key.

243 posted on 06/30/2005 2:41:30 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Lizarde; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; TexKat; Howlin; spectre; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

When I look at the Aruba map it looks so easy to drive TOWARD the lighthouse from C&C but long before you get there just make a little turn and bingo you are at Joran's house.

I'm sure some of you may have thought of this little detour possibility Lizarde points out, but I haven't studied the map and it gave me the shivers!

244 posted on 06/30/2005 2:43:16 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: demkicker

So are you saying that they took her to Joran's house? They never made it to the light house?

245 posted on 06/30/2005 2:47:55 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: TexKat

The beach is HADIKURARI (Fisherman's Huts).

(Just tuning in ... I assume you have this info already, but just in case ...)

246 posted on 06/30/2005 2:49:26 PM PDT by maggief

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To: spectre

So are you saying that they took her to Joran's house? They never made it to the light house?

Makes sense to me. Either on their way to the lighthouse, or on their way back....

247 posted on 06/30/2005 2:51:38 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: spectre

Anything newsworthy today
on this case?

(I've been out and busy
today.)

248 posted on 06/30/2005 2:51:55 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: maggiefluffs; TexKat

Ignore that last post.

250 posted on 06/30/2005 2:53:13 PM PDT by maggief

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To: spectre

I'd bet they did! Cell call from Jorans! Beth KNOWS she was there.

252 posted on 06/30/2005 2:57:09 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: brigette

(CC:) I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved.

Very telling.

254 posted on 06/30/2005 2:59:31 PM PDT by maggief

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To: All

Does anyone have a way to translate this page? It's an article from yesterday about Rene Michel van Heyningen.

http://www.diarioaruba.com/diaranzon/noticia/news1.html
Diaranzon, 29 Juni, 2005

255 posted on 06/30/2005 2:59:58 PM PDT by Nita Nupress

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To: Nita Nupress

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.diarioaruba.com/diaranzon/noticia/&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Rene%2BMichel%2Bvan%2BHeyningen%2522%2Baruba%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26biw%3D1280

I STILL can't make heads or tails of it.

257 posted on 06/30/2005 3:03:03 PM PDT by Nita Nupress

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To: Lizarde; monkeywrench; the Deejay; demkicker

Ok. Let's stay with that. So they were all three involved and Natalee died at Joran's house. Either drug overdose or struggle.

They have to get rid of her body. They say they were in the light house area, because that's where the car may have been seen.

And no one knows where a text message is sent from...do they?

258 posted on 06/30/2005 3:03:41 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: Lizarde; spectre; monkeywrench

and what's more, I think that they said they went to the lighthouse just in case anybody reported seeing their car going that direction (toward lighthouse and joran's house) instead of the direction of the HI

Gosh, more shivers!!! Who is the aruba girl at SM?

MORE REASON TO SEND THE CADAVER DOGS TO THE VDSs PROPERTY, DAMNIT!

259 posted on 06/30/2005 3:03:42 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: Lizarde; spectre; monkeywrench

Gosh, more shivers!!! Who is the aruba girl at SM?

MORE REASON TO SEND THE CADAVER DOGS TO THE VDSs PROPERTY, DAMNIT!

260 posted on 06/30/2005 3:03:44 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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