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To: Non-Sequitur

Your interpretation is off. And I submit this as proof: If either a) Congress did not allow it, or b) the desenting in Congress were required to agree... then I ask this- Why was no one convicted of treason (given such guidelines)?

And the statement I was making was proving that the STATE has the same abilities of the Federal government (exempting those provided explicitly in the Constitution)

United Statehood requires the consent of the State. The consent was no longer there.

And formulating a response and executing them are entirely different animals (especially given the technologies we're working with here.) Telecomunications weren't possible through the entire Northern network until about 8 months into the war. To get the ships deployed (from Yankee harbors into the Gulf of Mexico) would have taken about 7 (6.7) days to cover nearly 1300 nautical miles at full speed, in perfect weather, and thats for the fast ones (8+ nauts)

And that's also only to the tip of Florida. Try going further into the Gulf from there.

Lincoln announcing the (then in effect) blockade one week from Fort Sumpter means either a) EVERYTHING was launched from Maryland the hour Lincoln got word of an event 140 miles south of him. or b) The blockade was planned before the first (land) shots of the war were fired. And that would be an act of aggression and ill will.


188 posted on 06/24/2005 6:13:47 PM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: MacDorcha
then I ask this- Why was no one convicted of treason (given such guidelines)?

Because the passage of the 14th Amendment meant that any conviction of a southern leader for treason or any other charge relating to their participation in the rebellion would violate their 5th Amendment double jeopardy protections, or so believed Chief Justice Chase. He made it clear that he would vote against convicting Jefferson Davis on those grounds, and would vote to overturn any convictions that reached the Supreme Court.

{exempting those provided explicitly in the Constitution)

I've read the Constitution many times, and the term 'explicitly' is never used.

Lincoln announcing the (then in effect) blockade one week from Fort Sumpter means either a) EVERYTHING was launched from Maryland the hour Lincoln got word of an event 140 miles south of him. or b) The blockade was planned before the first (land) shots of the war were fired. You make it sound that every southern port was guarded the day the blockade was announced. Nothing could be further from the truth. It took weeks for ships to take up station, and years before it became reasonably effective.

189 posted on 06/24/2005 7:19:09 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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