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To: TradicalRC
1. I never accused you of attending an SSPX Mass which is allowed in any event, even if not a very good idea. So whether that was relevant to your post or not, it was not relevant to mine.

2. I believe that I responded to your post fully. If not, let me know the specifics.

3. Bernardin was about the worst figure in the history of AmChurch surpassing even Law.

4. I am very comfortable on my high horse and intend to remain there.

5. I have posted plenty here on the phoniness that often passes for "tradition" on the part of those who want to either wring their hands over every nuance (Did Marcel get a fair hearing? Did JP II exceed his authority? Yeah, that's the ticket!) or reject the authority as exercised by the late Holy Father.

6. Ad hominem is Latin for "We know them when we hear from them." They usually don't answer simple questions for obvious reasons. I invited your substantive answers. You decided to keep the argument ad hominem.

311 posted on 06/21/2005 8:55:33 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk; Regina
1. I never accused you of attending an SSPX Mass which is allowed in any event, even if not a very good idea. So whether that was relevant to your post or not, it was not relevant to mine.

If it was irrelevant to both of our posts, why did YOU bring it up?

I don't live in Chicagoland. I live in rural Northwestern Illinois in the Rockford diocese of Bishop Doran. I live in a relatively narrow circle of friends, none of whom seem to have regarded Bernardin as other than the worst archbishop Chicago ever had and as one who dictated that the music at his funeral be done by the Windy City Gay Men's Chorus to send an obvious message.

Bernardin was about the worst figure in the history of AmChurch surpassing even Law.

We're in the same diocese, funny how you never got wind of how many folks around Chicagoland think of Bernardin the way you think of John Paul the Great. Even the good folks at the Rockford Institute seem to grasp that fact.

6. Ad hominem is Latin for "We know them when we hear from them." They usually don't answer simple questions for obvious reasons. I invited your substantive answers. You decided to keep the argument ad hominem.

I see your latin is about as good as your rhetoric.

I don't confuse myself with God but then I am not and never was SSPX.

Few know Lefebvre's name. Few ever will, as it should be.

Did Marcel Lefebvre die excommunicated?
Was Marcel Lefebvre ever excommunicated?
Same questions as to the Econe 4 Is SSPX in schism? Why? Why not?

Get back to me when you have answered those.

This is all from your post to me. I never mentioned Lefebvre, the SSPX or anything against the authority of the Pope. Do you really expect that I should NOT have taken this post as an implication that I was somehow schismatic? Please.

I have been judging since I was about 5 years old (oh, so many years ago) and generally I have hit the right targets. If someone shows me I am wrong, I generally admit it.

So far you seem to have hit myself and one other poster on this forum with implicit charges of schismaticism. You are not admitting that you're wrong, on the contrary, you seem to have arrogantly dug your heels in.

I invited your substantive answers. You decided to keep the argument ad hominem.

I honestly do NOT even know what you are refering to. I merely told you to not indulge in ad hominem arguments such as wrongly implying that persons on this thread are schismatic. If my telling you that constitutes an ad hominem argument then I'll just have to find out what passes for logic out there in Rockford.

312 posted on 06/21/2005 9:46:43 PM PDT by TradicalRC (In vino veritas.)
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