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To: TradicalRC; ninenot; sittnick
Are you the Vicar of Christ on Earth? Did God give YOU the keys? Me neither. JP II was Vicar of Christ on Earth Benedict XVI now is. Each in his time had/has the keys. Each in his time sat in judgment on you, on me. We and neither of us sit in judgment on either of them. I don't confuse myself with God but then I am not and never was SSPX.

Fr. McBrien was a fool when he was incardinated in the Archdiocese of Hartford (he served at Our Lady of Victory Parish in West Haven until infesting Notre Dame in about 1962. McBrien is still a fool and has been throughout his priesthood. He should have been defrocked for writing Cuomo's "I am a pro-abort Catholic" speech. In a sane world, he would have been burned at the stake.

JP II is just about universally admired. Few know Lefebvre's name. Few ever will, as it should be.

I don't live in Chicagoland. I live in rural Northwestern Illinois in the Rockford diocese of Bishop Doran. I live in a relatively narrow circle of friends, none of whom seem to have regarded Bernardin as other than the worst archbishop Chicago ever had and as one who dictated that the music at his funeral be done by the Windy City Gay Men's Chorus to send an obvious message.

Like it or not, JP II is John Paul the Great. I suspect that discernment may be a gift received at confirmation. True or not, bad churchmen are like pornography. We know them when we see them. Likewise, saints. If that makes me judgmental, at least I am not caterwauling against the decisions of the Holy Spirit in the last conclave of 1988.

I have been judging since I was about 5 years old (oh, so many years ago) and generally I have hit the right targets. If someone shows me I am wrong, I generally admit it.

You can help me judge.

Did Marcel Lefebvre die excommunicated?

Was Marcel Lefebvre ever excommunicated?

Same questions as to the Econe 4

Is SSPX in schism? Why? Why not?

Get back to me when you have answered those.

297 posted on 06/21/2005 2:36:52 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

Get off of your high horse BE I have NEVER attended an SSPX
Mass as though it were relevant to my post.
Call me when you have something better to offer than ad hominem.


301 posted on 06/21/2005 3:18:39 PM PDT by TradicalRC (In vino veritas.)
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