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To: rwfromkansas; onyx; Lady In Blue; Petronski
My parents brought me up to have manners. We were not to impose our political or religious views on the unwilling. If you want to evangelize, go talk to a pagan world to come to the halfway point home which you may have reached. Since Catholics are all the way home (ecclesiastically), we need not the advice of buttinskis not of the fold. I will be here as long as I please as probably will you.

That does not mean that I have some obligation to make believe that your "biblical insights" as a heretic are at all relevant to Catholic theology much less the internal governance of our Church. If you are not a member of the team, please do not steal a uniform that is not yours to try to be in the lineup.

If you are free on a discussion forum to discuss what you manifestly misunderstand (else you would be a Catholic and not a Calvinist), then those of us who actually ARE CATHOLIC will feel free to tell you that your opinions are impertinent, uninformed and unwanted. Any problem?????

Do you have opinions also on what my family should have for dinner tonight without an invitation to join us? As to what color we should use to cover our house. Should my next business shirt be white, blue or otherwise? Any wisdom to impose as to what make of car I should drive? In short, who died and left you God????? Go to your nearest "scriptural" mutual congratulation society meeting and thank God you were not, ummmmm, "predestined" to be Catholic.

What is he purpose of talk as you describe it. One party possesses the fullness of Christian Truth. The other party does not but thinks he/she does. You are no more interested in compromising than is any genuine Catholic. Nor should any Catholic be interested in compromising. If you think that the biblical "insights" of anyone with a bible, reading lessons and an agenda is on some sort of playing field in some sort of legitimate contest with Christ's own Catholic Church, you are wrong on that too. There is NOTHING to argue about. You want to pick off poorly catechized stragglers. I don't want you to do that. No more, no less.

264 posted on 06/21/2005 11:20:41 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Are you taking a poll?

Do you have opinions also on what my family should have for dinner tonight without an invitation to join us?

If I am not eating there, it should be liver.

As to what color we should use to cover our house.

Mauve.

Should my next business shirt be white, blue or otherwise?

If you like striped pants, use a plaid shirt.

Any wisdom to impose as to what make of car I should drive?

I think we should make you buy a Hummer, do I get to pick out spinner hubcaps?

In short, who died and left you God?

oops nevermind. (I couldn't help it BlackElk)

There is NOTHING to argue about. You want to pick off poorly catechized stragglers.

This is the MO of some protestants who post in a Catholic thread and argue issue of theology. Sure you are welcome to tell us how a Baptist believes, and we will tell you what the Church teaches. The different is the difference between a belief that no person HAS to believe and a teaching of the Church which is definitively and universally held. Of course all are welcome to come in here and chime in, in good faith.

As Catholics, we believe there is the authority of God behind the decisions of the Church. Supernatural efforts of God keep the Catholic Church on the right path, through Popes who were total idiots and reprobates, with bad Bishops, and bad Priests, through the superstitions of the ages, down to the hyper modernism of today. In short, the Church itself is miraculous, having sustained itself through two millennia.

To us it seems, a protestant would have us supplant that guarantee by making every man a Pope.
270 posted on 06/21/2005 11:52:40 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: BlackElk

"One party possesses the fullness of Christian Truth."

What arrogance for you to think you know it all. Wow.

As a Calvinist, I understand my mind is not able to comprehend the full mystery of God.


298 posted on 06/21/2005 2:47:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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