[lentulusgracchus]

The people of the state can vote all they want and ratify anything that they care to, but they are not a state until Congress votes to create them.

Not true. Texas was an independent country. Hawaii was an independent kingdom.

You are arguing from an overly specific case of States created from United States Territory, to graft the subordinate position of Territories onto the status of States themselves. You are essentially denying Statehood to the States, and trying to substitute, conceptually at least, the provincial status Hitler thought they had -- on their knees, grovelling before Lincoln and the Congress, the People humiliated by their revolted servants. It's a bogus argument, an ambulance-chaser's argument.

You just like the sound of hobnailed boots, is your problem.

[Non-Sequitur]

Not true. Texas was an independent country. Hawaii was an independent kingdom.

And California was an independent republic and so was Vermont. What's your point? None of those became states until Congress voted to approve their admission.

You are essentially denying Statehood to the States, and trying to substitute, conceptually at least, the provincial status Hitler thought they had -- on their knees, grovelling before Lincoln and the Congress, the People humiliated by their revolted servants. It's a bogus argument, an ambulance-chaser's argument.

And when you all can't make your point you trot out a Hitler comparison.