[Gianni]

OK, he's wrong. The states did not create the federal government, the people did. The Constitution reads, "We the People" not "We the States". And it was the People of the United States that created it, not the people of Virginia and Pennsylvania and South Carolina.

Interesting theory, but the people of Rhode Island and North Carolina did not. How do they fit into your theory?

[Non-Sequitur]

Interesting theory, but the people of Rhode Island and North Carolina did not. How do they fit into your theory?

But they did. The people in North Carolina ratified it in November 1789 and the people in Rhode Island ratified it in May of 1790.