To: lula; Miss Behave; Reaganwuzthebest
"Who are you to decide the worth of anyone?
This WAS a case of JUDICIAL MURDER.
Tom Delay should have said the things he said. The GOP should have backed him 100%"
I would believe that too, if i believed that it was a matter of judging her quality of life (it wasn't) Or, what you said here: "If you were to have followed this case you would know she was not PVS. That is what ONE doctor diagnosed. This same doctor diagnosed another patient a policeman who is now walking and talking."
But it, too, is 100% false.
This is why sticking to the facts is critical. If you base your opinions on the false rumors and lies told here and on other agenda sites, then your opinions and your credibility becomes as worthless as the lies you base them on.
a) Dr Cranford is a scary dude, but he did NOT diagnose Weland as PVS, as you keep reading here.
b) He was NOT the only Dr to say Terri was PVS
c) In the 15 years since her coma, she had been diagnosed as PVS by every doctor and neurologist who examined her - except 2. Those 2 were the choices of her parents' attorneys, Hammesfahr and Maxwell, and they sucked out loud in terms of credibility (see my profile).
The affidavits you see are from docs who never saw her, many connected with Hammesfahr, and at least one who didn't even know she had ever had an EEG, much less that she had many of them, all saying there was no cerebral activity.
I don't know what her actual state was, nor do I think they should have pulled her tube under those circumstances, but repeating lies makes us look like morons, and it caused good men like Tom Delay to act on it and regret it.
217 posted on
04/13/2005 11:17:33 PM PDT by
Trinity_Tx
(9/9/2000) I'd rather be uncertain in my pursuit of truth than certain in my defense of a falsehood)
To: Trinity_Tx
Where did you get all your notes from? Felos?
You know as well as I do that any professional can be paid to testify to any belief in court.
They make a living doing this. They make far more money than actually seeing patients, plus they don't have to pay their liability premiums.
In many cases doctors tend to favor the guardians wishes. Unfortunately, it was a wrong choice this time. I believe we will learn more about this case as time goes by.
For me I'm sticking with the family on this one. Too many conflicts of interest. Even you must see that.
224 posted on
04/13/2005 11:35:54 PM PDT by
lula
(Starving the disabled is OK, go to jail if you do the same to an animal...go figure)
To: Trinity_Tx
I don't know what her actual state was, Her state based on the videos was someone definitely aware of their surroundings. I did not see a vegetable or a brain dead individual but even if she was in that state I couldn't pull the plug since it wasn't about terminal illness.
To: Trinity_Tx
Regarding the allegation I was wrong about the police officer you identified as "Weland":
"Cranford has testified that patients in a PVS have no hope of recovery, but this is simply untrue. A number of people found to be unrecoverable have, in fact, recovered. Cranford himself diagnosed Sergeant Richard Mack, a police officer shot in the line of duty, as definitely...in a persistent vegetative state...never to regain cognitive, sapient functioning. Almost two years later, Mack woke up. He eventually regained almost all his mental abilities.
Killing Terri Schiavo
718 posted on
04/15/2005 2:14:00 AM PDT by
lula
(Starving the disabled is OK, go to jail if you do the same to an animal...go figure)
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