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To: Jim Robinson; hchutch
"...those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum."

There's the gist of what's wrong with so many.

I have never seen a pro illegal immigration post in FR.

To some, if you're not supportive of militarized, "sealed", or "closed" borders, you must then be in favor of illegal immigration.

I oppose the idea of using the armed forces to patrol the borders, I don't believe that borders can be "sealed", and I don't think that they can be "closed" either, and for that I am labeled a supporter of illegal immigration.

I also vehemently oppose ALL entitlement programs--for illegal immigrants as well as for the native born--yet, because I do not agree with the methods, figures, and verbiage used by the supporters of vigilantism, militarized borders, and zero immigration, I am labeled as a supporter of welfare entitlements for illegal aliens.

I do not agree with their ideas on how to solve the problem of illegal immigration, I like my ideas, and I support President Bush's ideas, and for that, just like this guy did, I get accused of being things that I am not.

Having a difference of opinion on the solution to the problem of illegal immigration does not make one a supporter of illegal immigration.

One more thing...

There is free speech in this country, it's Constitutionally guaranteed, but that freedom does not extend itself on to the private property of others, and this forum is privately owned.

For a self-labeled "conservative", the author doesn't seem to understand one the most basic tenets of conservatism.

In my house, I make the rules.

In your house Jim, you make the rules.

630 posted on 02/11/2005 1:55:14 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

See #145; somebody is lobbying for you and I to be banned.


652 posted on 02/11/2005 2:00:30 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Howlin
There's the gist of what's wrong with so many.

I have never seen a pro illegal immigration post in FR.

To some, if you're not supportive of militarized, "sealed", or "closed" borders, you must then be in favor of illegal immigration.

I oppose the idea of using the armed forces to patrol the borders, I don't believe that borders can be "sealed", and I don't think that they can be "closed" either, and for that I am labeled a supporter of illegal immigration.

I also vehemently oppose ALL entitlement programs--for illegal immigrants as well as for the native born--yet, because I do not agree with the methods, figures, and verbiage used by the supporters of vigilantism, militarized borders, and zero immigration, I am labeled as a supporter of welfare entitlements for illegal aliens.

I do not agree with their ideas on how to solve the problem of illegal immigration, I like my ideas, and I support President Bush's ideas, and for that, just like this guy did, I get accused of being things that I am not.

Having a difference of opinion on the solution to the problem of illegal immigration does not make one a supporter of illegal immigration.

Absolute truth Luis and I think you'll find all of us who are called by some the "FROBL" would agree with you 100%. None of us want open borders or amnesty for illegal aliens but some think not agreeing with their view means we are pro-illegals and pro-amnesty.

680 posted on 02/11/2005 2:07:37 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I oppose the idea of using the armed forces to patrol the borders, I don't believe that borders can be 'sealed', and I don't think that they can be 'closed' either, and for that I am labeled a supporter of illegal immigration."

(stifling hysterical laughter)

850 posted on 02/11/2005 3:18:33 PM PST by F16Fighter
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