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"From what I've seen so far, it looks like the conservatives have choosed up sides on the illegal mex issue and are now going at it fiercely enough that people and threads are getting banned and erased from FR existence."

Real "conservatives" do not abdicate the right of the United States of America to stringently enforce it's borders and deport illegal invaders without the fallacious charge of "racism."

Take note of those faux conservatives. They'll be hysterically ranting and raving like a small army of Barbra Boxers these coming months against anti-illegal legislation, and in support of RINO legislation to water down Border Enforcement.

I agree.

Like I've said a thousand times: What part of "ill-e-gal" don't you understand? THey're called ILLEGALS because they're here ILLEGALLY and that means THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. that means they HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. That means KICKING THEM OUT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

comprender?

When looking at the production function of a firm in micro-econ, we looked at factors such as capital, raw materials, plant and equipment, and labor, and the relationship each had with respect to output. In short, as the cost of any of these inputs went up or down, it was possible to calculate how much of each would be necessary to maximize output (while minimizing costs), resulting in the highest total output.

The cheapening of the 'labor' component through years of illegal input has become a rigid fact-of-life for many industries, unfortunately. Labor has been a volitile component in most production equations (they don't use robotics to build cars for nothing) and any cheap, illegal, and abundant source will be met enthusiastically by most producers.

The exploitation of illegal (cheap) labor generates profits that wouldn't exist otherwise. But then, the same could be said of illegal capital (stolen money), illegal raw materials (stolen goods, energy, etc.), or illegal plant and equipment (setting up shop overseas/sweatshops, etc.)

For the moralists who've justified the exploitation of illegal labor, I would like similar justifications for conterfeiting or receiving stolen goods, as these could contribute as much toward a similar increase in output.

Greed can be a good thing until it involves trading in things illegal.

Here's the word of the day:

AINOs.

Americans In Name Only.

Those that are legally American citizens, but have no loyalty to America.

They see their status as American citizens as merely an "in" which allows them to help open the gates a la the Trojan Horse for the rest of the citizens of their ancestral lands to flood across our borders regardless of consequences. To them, America is simply a resource to plunder, not the land of freedom and opportunity.

My grandfather came through Ellis Island legally in 1928 and never forgot the opportunity that this land offered. He did it the right way; when his kids went to school they weren't sponging off of the rest of American taxpayers; their dad WAS an American taxpayer.

Why should the latest batch of immigrants from Mexico get to skirt the rules that MILLIONS of immigrants in the past from many, MANY nations have had to follow. Are they special? Maybe we could get little yellow schoolbuses, (the special ones) to drive them across the border.

If someone is more concerned about the citizens of Mexico than of America, perhaps they should immigrate to Mexico and help rehabilitate that 3rd world den of corruption, rather than turn America into a lifeboat.

Those wishing to immigrate to America need to follow the rules; if they can't we don't need them here, regardless of where they come from.