It's something that doesn't really exist. The people being called part of this mythical FROBL don't really support open borders at all. They also don't support solutions to the illegal immigrant problem that won't work.
They recognize that there is a problem, and want a solution, but also understand that it is impossible to shut down the borders of the US.
What's the right solution? Heck, I don't know. Maybe the one coming out of Congress right now will help, but the problem's not new, and there's not going to be a quick solution.
Too much money is tied up in the economics of illegals, unfortunately, and it's going to be really, really difficult to cut off that end.
The agricultural community, for example, is heavily dependent on immigrant workers, and not just the legal kind. It's not just in California, but in every agricultural state.
Get rid of the illegals, and the ag community will scream bloody murder, I guarantee. They don't want to have to pay the going rate for citizen workers, and that's the bottom line.
President Bush is trying to appease everyone, and that's pretty much impossible. He may well end up appeasing nobody, and that's the crux of the problem.
I have no solution to offer...it's a bigger problem than I can comprehend. Is there a solution at all? I don't know. Probably not. The problem is a very long-standing one.
Well, I'm outta here for the afternoon now, but I will say this... Mexico's little pamphlet from a few months back indicates their approval of breaking our laws. It makes me sick.
To be continued... :)
I have a question, can someone please tell me who this William Gheen and this ALIPAC thing are? I mean who are they and who do they think they are?
Australia is a perfect illustration of how reasonable immigration restrictions spur both economic growth and technological innovation.
That is also mythical. How do they know what solution will or will not work? Just because they don't like the solution does not mean the solution will not work.
They recognize that there is a problem, and want a solution, but also understand that it is impossible to shut down the borders of the US.
It's not impossible to do anything. It's completely possible to shut down the borders; history has proven that. Anyway, no one on FR has advocated shutting down the borders, what has been advocated is shutting down the areas between the legal ports of entry and that is completely possible.
The agricultural community, for example, is heavily dependent on immigrant workers
No they are not. History has shown time and time again, technology can do the job. What the agricultural community is dependent on is their profit and you proved it by saying this: Get rid of the illegals, and the ag community will scream bloody murder, I guarantee. They don't want to have to pay the going rate for citizen workers, and that's the bottom line.
What is needed is a total revamping of our immigration system. It will be expensive and it will cause people some pain and discomfort, but that is the only real fix. Unfortunately, it will most likely never be done or be done properly
What the White House and Congress are doing, with their piece meal bills is akin to sticking your finger in a dyke. They are all little fixes that don’t address the real problem and with each fix, more pressure is placed on other areas dyke and it’s just a matter of time before another leak needs a finger.