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To: raybbr; hchutch; Poohbah; Jim Robinson
"However, since you choose to argue with all of us who advocate closing the border the opposite must be true."

There it is in a nutshell.

Anyone who does not believe that their solution is the only solution, who believes that band aids will not work where cures are needed, and who questions the feasibility of an undefined notion called "closing the borders", is deemed to be a proponent of the exact opposite.

I don't believe that "closing the borders" is possible, I don't believe it solves the problem even if it could be done.

I don't believe in posting the military at the border to stop the flow of illegal aliens entering into the country, because it would become a permanent mission...the moment that we took the forces away from the border, the movement north would begin again.

I don't believe in your solution ray, you don't have the answer, but contrary to your claims, and the claims of others like you, that does not mean that I approve of illegal immigration.

2,066 posted on 02/12/2005 11:16:10 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I don't believe in your solution ray, you don't have the answer, but contrary to your claims, and the claims of others like you, that does not mean that I approve of illegal immigration.

Closing the border is only part of the solution. Since you never even acknowledge this - simple reason and logic say you must be for an "unprotected", "open", "porous" (use whaever euphamism you choose) border. It's simple reason and logic. Real simple.

I am for our federal govt. and the Bush administration proving they are serious about immigration reform by enforcing the existing laws first and then we can go from there. Until then, no matter what program or law that is enacted, can't be taken seriously. Show me that Bush is serious about the sovereignty of this nation and I will listen. So far it's "come one, come all" and then will see what we can do about the resulting mess.

2,082 posted on 02/12/2005 11:27:38 AM PST by raybbr
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