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To: cpdiii
"The problem is not immigration but assimilation of the immigrants."

How are they not assimilating?

They wear the same clothes everyone else does, including hipsters.
They eat at McDonalds and Pizza Hut
They bury their children in the same veterans' cemeteries with the same crosses on the headstones.
They work 8 to 5 jobs without siestas
They cheer the Houston Astros and Texans
They belong to the same Christian denominations
They shop at the same malls
Drive the same Japanese cars
Watch the same flat screen TVs
Learn the English required to function satisfactorily on the job, in school, or at Target.

What is it about their assimilation that disturbs you?

Do you have a problem with them preying in Spanish in their homes, eating tacos, listening to Tejauno music, letting their elderly live in their homes instead of putting them in retirement communities, not allowing their daughters to stay out all nite at age 14, not aborting their babies, playing soccer instead of hockey, ...

What exactly is your assimilation complaint?

2,001 posted on 02/12/2005 9:36:35 AM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod

I have a problem with them booing American soccer players, working to make part of the U.S. a part of Mexico. The list could go on and on.


2,003 posted on 02/12/2005 9:38:45 AM PST by yarddog
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To: bayourod
Watch the same flat screen TVs

With slightly different programming (language).

Learn the English required to function satisfactorily on the job, in school, or at Target.

That hasn't been my experience in places I've worked.

Also, I've lived in Mexican neighborhoods in the U.S., and I've often found them quite loud, disrespectful of the environment around them, and rather contemptuous of white people. "Assimilation" is definitely not a word that comes to my mind.

That said, I'm sure that others do assimilate, probably quite a few. The problem is, those that do are continually replaced by new arrrivals that don't. If we secure the borders, we can make great progress in helping those who remain to assimilate.

2,036 posted on 02/12/2005 10:43:58 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: bayourod

You really need to come out and visit Salinas, CA, or South Fresno, or Orange Cove. Areas of little "assimilation"...they more resemble Tijuana than the U.S..


2,061 posted on 02/12/2005 11:12:57 AM PST by Drago
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To: bayourod
businesses from relocating or outsourcing

You won't find me complaining about outsourcing on this forum.

What's wrong with Mexicans growing tomatoes and such in Mexico and then importing it to us? I have no problem with that situation whatsoever.

I do have a problem with illegal immigration and ills it brings to our country.

2,093 posted on 02/12/2005 11:35:56 AM PST by HighFlier
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To: bayourod
They wear the same clothes everyone else does, including hipsters. They eat at McDonalds and Pizza Hut They bury their children in the same veterans' cemeteries with the same crosses on the headstones. They work 8 to 5 jobs without siestas They cheer the Houston Astros and Texans They belong to the same Christian denominations They shop at the same malls Drive the same Japanese cars Watch the same flat screen TVs Learn the English required to function satisfactorily on the job, in school, or at Target.

Bull crap! They drive around with Mexican flags on their cars. They fill our airwaves with Mexican-speaking radio and TV stations. I have to press "1" every time I call a major business because I have committed the crime of speaking our native language. My state forms, voter registration forms, ballots, etc. all come in English and Spanish. There are fights in the Arizona school systems over what to do with all of the kids who don't/won't speak English. There are parts of this country that I've been in where it is hard to find an english-speaker in chain restaurants like KFC, Subway, Popeye's, etc. I was in a Wal-Mart in ElPaso and I felt like I was in a foreign country. Few cashiers spoke English and all of the announcements over the PA system were in Spanish. There are predominantly Mexican areas of Mesa, AZ (and I'm sure other cities) where Anglos are not welcome and should not enter. This experiment where we're permitting millions of foreigners who speak a different language and who subscribe to a FAILED culture (if it wasn't a failure, why would they be literally dying to leave Mexico) to come into our country unchecked is unfair to those of us already here. It depresses the wages, fills the hospital emergency rooms with people who can't pay, populates violent gangs, raises crime rates, costs states like AZ and CA billions of dollars, overcrowd schools, import poverty, carry contagious third-world diseases, destroys the desert area where the invaders stream across, packs our prisons full of foreign criminals, etc.

The fact is they are NOT assimilating here and any perceived benefit is far outweighed by the problems they bring.

But, again, you've made it clear that you openly support illegal immigration. Jim Robinson himself does not. You pollute immigration threads with your pro-illegal immigration agenda and imply that anyone against illegal immigration is racist or xenophobic. You are a disrupter of such threads, pure and simple, and if anyone should be banned for causing problems related to the topics of border security and illegal immigration, it should be you who has instigated flamewar after flamewar with your name-calling, pro-crime agenda. Robinson should ban you if he was being fair about this issue at all.

2,103 posted on 02/12/2005 11:48:55 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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