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To: hchutch
Do you have ANY idea what group would take over once that explosion happens?

Couldn't be any worst than the group in power now. How many more can leave? Lets see ---- half the state of Zacatecas has left Mexico and is in the USA --- would another group be so bad that the other half would come? It's coming with the current group anyhow. Believe it or not --- half of Zacatecas is over here --- yet immigration from that state is not slowed --- and they've more likely than ever to risk death trying.

1,544 posted on 02/11/2005 9:56:01 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ

worst = worse ---- ignore my typos.


1,547 posted on 02/11/2005 9:57:46 PM PST by FITZ
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Maybe we should just give up and invade Mexico.

Rule it as a territory and fix things.

Well, got to defeat the left wingers here before we go after those in Mexico. First things first.


1,551 posted on 02/11/2005 10:03:43 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: FITZ
half of Zacatecas is over here --- yet immigration from that state is not slowed --- and they've more likely than ever to risk death trying.

And it will continue to get worse, as long as once they are here, they can disappear and earn a living.

It is not the earning the living that is the problem. This act helps us immensely in a variety of work needs and requirements.

What hurts is that they cannot assimilate. They cannot or are hampered because they came illegally. They work for companies that have no Federal ID # and are not currently paying SS or taxes.

We tried after the 86 debacle to control the problem through the control of companies and we only succeeded in pushing them underground. We failed, even with the legit companies because of poorly written law and huge legal costs, lack of courts, and you name it.

For a moment, lets accept the fact that what we did, did not work and we blew it.

Now what do we do? Build wall, they take a boat, a plane.

Issue visas, they over stay them and ignore the courts because if they do not they get deported.

They are marrying our kids, they are living here, there, and everywhere and no one knows how many they are.

We first must throw a blanket over the light that draws them in illegally, by creating a legal method to do exactly what they are doing now. They will come anyway, so use the energy and momentum to control the problem.

We begin by passing stiff regulations for businesses. No Fed ID #, and you get no business permits, no contracts, no work for any other legitimate contractor. No checking accounts, no ability to pay cash with much tighter cash regs.

I can hear them squealing now.

Then, in order to hire anyone not a citizen, they must have a valid work permit issue by ICE. As they start to come in, phased in area by area, you debrief them, you find out where they work, you data mine them for info on relatives, associations and data bank it. You verify the job, and if the company is still not in compliance, you make them comply. Once a security check is done you issue a numbered permit, a foreign national drivers license with biometric info.

One last thing is a fine for the illegal entry in the amount of 2500.00,(500.00 if they apply from home) and away they go.

Any criminal record, non compliance, fake id, and they are bussed home to Mexico.

This will need to phased in. There are a bunch of detail to work out. The fines will also be levied on the companies that comply. They broke the law as well and the fines need to be based on the number of violations.

Those businesses that fail to comply will fold. They will have to.

I think the permit should be for one year, but renewed yearly by phone verification for a total of three to four years depending on what they are doing.

They should be allowed to transit freely with their documents so they can get back into a migratory pattern without fear.

They will carry the word home, that without going through the process, there will be no work and they will starve or be forced to ask for a ride home.

This is pretty rough, but it is something I have been thinking about for a while. We should also extend this to other countries. We should only issue permits for verified jobs and several regional employment operations will be handling that. I am not being specific about the infrastucture they will need to do this, but the fines and fees can be adjusted as necessary to cover the costs.

1,604 posted on 02/11/2005 10:44:09 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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