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To: csbyrnes84
Pope Pius XI in his encyclical, Quas Primas, said that Jesus Christ is not only the Lord of every individual, but also of every human society. The Syllabus of Errors of Blessed Pius IX, #77, in particular, exposes the error of separation of Church and State, a doctrine now upheld by the Vatican as the ideal, using both the Second Vatican Council’s Declaration on Religious Liberty, which could very easily have been called the Declaration of Religious Liberty (reference to our Declaration of Independence intended), as well as individual decisions from the Vatican to accelerate such a separation in what were otherwise thoroughly Catholic countries, such as, among others, Colombia, 98% Catholic. The orientation of the Church is now very much in line with the principles of the French Revolution, namely liberty, fraternity, and equality. Hence, the mainstay catchwords from the Council—religious liberty, ecumenism, and collegiality. That is not a coincidence, and it is evil. The Liturgy is just one of the many lambs to be slaughtered along the way towards a Christian Democracy, which, to the dismay and shock of many in the Church, will lead directly to the worldwide takeover of Atheistic Communism [...]

Right to the point. It is heartening to know someone can see through the fog.

Separation of church and state is wholly foreign to Catholicism. Nor is it mandated by our constitution. It is time the Church spoke about it before it is driven to the catacombs.

9 posted on 01/25/2005 4:05:16 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
Separation of church and state is wholly foreign to Catholicism. Nor is it mandated by our constitution.

The establishment of Catholicism as the national religion is forbidden by our constitution, and Catholicism as a "state religion" is the very thing the concept of the Kingship of Christ advocates.

25 posted on 01/25/2005 5:49:44 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: annalex
Separation of church and state is wholly foreign to Catholicism.

Save for papal states, it pretty much defined Christendom. Indeed, there were times in which potentates would not rush to the defense called for by the Pope, himself. They would weigh their options. Ultimately, the modern notion of separation of church/state doesn't so much wish to deprive the court of its bishops, but the laws of their Catholicism. The King was still the King, when Kings mattered, and much to the dismay of all of Heaven during the reign of Henry VIIIth and his 'Catholic' archbishop at Canterbury. But the moral law, before, and elsewhere, even for pretender Kings even in England, was judged against the Catholic standard. It wasn't papal control of foreign lands that made it Christendom. It was their voluntary confession of the higher law and basis for jurisprudence that made it so. That small confession of the same, however intentionally made vague, was part of the founding of the US. And the US has prospered, not always for embracing the Faith or for dealing fairly in business or great social projects (the robber barons, and such). But the social compact is still one based on a confession of the higher, if not now that of Catholicism, itself. It's the remaining moral hope for this nation, and perhaps one explanation for why this remains a nation with the largest number of at least self-professed Christians. Contrast with the French who denied this altogether in their insurrection, and created The Terror and Bonaparte, and a legacy of shame, defeat, and a slew of new 'republics'.

158 posted on 01/26/2005 7:03:48 AM PST by sevry
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