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To: pascendi
Read Leo's statement. Nowhere in it does he condemn democratic republicanism.

BTW, what are you doing here if the US form of government gets under your hide?

Venezuela's semi-socialist; you'd fit right in.

80 posted on 01/25/2005 7:35:16 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur
"BTW, what are you doing here if the US form of government gets under your hide?"

Just merely conforming to the traditional interpretation of CCC section 2105 which gbcdoj quoted in post #13.

Duh, sink.

88 posted on 01/25/2005 7:47:42 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: sinkspur; pascendi
Sinkspur: You are allowing yourself to be baited by cartoon stick figures of the Marcellian schism. If you do not imagine the United States as a Catholic monarchy in the near future, you are a heathen enemy of their faith.

As an actual traditionalist, allow me to apologize for the phonies and the way they are wasting your time with some of the absolutely silliest arguments yet seen out of them. I have had the misfortune of becoming acquainted with Tom Droleskey who is far advanced into looney-tunehood and advancing further with each passing day. I certainly won't blame you for denying yourself the hilarious laughs or quite dubious pleasure of his acquaintance or hios company.

Droleskey is the single most pretentious dim jackass calling himself Catholic I have ever met met. I haven't met Solange Hertz who may be competitive and I do not plan to meet her. Nor John Rao or the rest of this bizarre antiCatholic and antiAmerican clique. We are a Masonic society, you see, unlike the noble and courageous Catholic nations of old Europe. Many of the pseudoTrads are also delusionally nostalgic for what disappeared long, long ago and refuse to accept the fact that Catholic Europe is dead other than the Vatican. Then again, they don't think the Vatican is Catholic. Somehow they are not as offended by France and its organ grinder's monkey Jacques Chirac.

The state of California has apparently granted some sort of accreditation to a matchbook "university" declared into existence by Droleskey. Would he be the new Catholic king of America then? Would the Vatican allow Theodore Cardinal McCarrick to be our new American king instead? Or perhaps Roger Cardinal Mahoney or William Cardinal Keeler? How about a dark horse: Bishop Thomas Gumbleton? I don't think the pseudo"trads" have thought this through. I am not sure they are capable of thinking this through.

Pascendi: Grownups don't care particularly about your pain in having your tastes offended or about your rage against the Church or as to your curious contortions as to Church doctrine. Peddle the schism elsewhere.

140 posted on 01/25/2005 11:06:48 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: sinkspur; pascendi; thor76
BTW, what are you doing here if the US form of government gets under your hide?

Venezuela's semi-socialist; you'd fit right in.

The Principality of Liechtenstein (whose bishop I understand has been friendly to the SSPX), not the Republic of Venezuela, is probably the present-day country which comes closest to the ideals of Catholic monarchists. However, I don't speak German, and I believe their immigration policies are pretty strict. Besides, theoretical preference for a different form of government is not sufficient reason to emigrate if one is not being persecuted for one's beliefs.

204 posted on 01/27/2005 7:35:07 AM PST by royalcello
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