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To: AAABEST; ninenot
It is not as though the Roman Catholic Church would be losing anything of value in the event that those who find themselves persuaded by the Marcellian schism and associated evils leave. It just clarifies the battle lines and purifies the Roman Catholic Church.

Support of the Roman Catholic Church and of His Holiness is always a good work. The traditional Faith is, of course, headquarted in the Vatican as it has been since the end of the captivity at Avignon or even the Napoleonic imprisonment of Pius VII.

Roma locuta. Causa finita.

Ubi Petrus, Ibi Ecclesia.

If people wrongfully imagine themselves Catholic without adhering to those principles, they can find themselves a nice, self-worshipping nest of schismatics to pat them on the back for the slights that their respective imperial judgments and ids have suffered from that mean old pope.

I am ever happy to provide such good works to separate the Roman wheat from the Marcellian chaff.

432 posted on 01/30/2005 12:10:30 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
It just clarifies the battle lines and purifies the Roman Catholic Church.

I agree with you that there is discernment taking place and that lines being drawn, only it's not as you would like to imagine it.

Liberals, gays, criminals, the un-catechized, modernists, relativists, new agers, heretics, neos, tradition haters and other various disruptors gravitate towards New Order Catholicism, a non-organic invention spawned by suspect men with bright ideas the 1960s. Those who value the aspects of our faith which transformed the planet by spreading the Gospel through the centuries embrace tradition.

The former either ignore, deny or wickedly participate intentionally in the ongoing destruction the Mother Church has suffered because of this miserable failed experiment. The latter pay attention when they hear wisdom calling.

What you haven't realized Mr. Elk, is that our traditional faith has that good ol' dynamic that it always had; The harder you push against it, the more fertile and productive it becomes. The problem for the antagonists is that it becomes fertile and productive anyway, even if they attempt to ignore it. Hence they are in the frustrating and unenviable position of not being able to stifle it, yet not being able to ignore it.

The pharisees 2,000 years ago were faced with this same unresolvable dilemma. We witnessed a modern day microcosm of this dynamic during the dustup when Mel's "The Passion" came out. The more they pushed, the bigger it became.

435 posted on 01/30/2005 1:35:10 PM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Chirste eleison †)
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