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To: gbcdoj

"Obviously, the Patriotic Association has the characteristic of being in schism ... All legitimate priests and deacons should obey the "8-point" directive, and will therefore not have "communicatio in sacris" either with illegitimate bishops and religious or with those religious under the Patriotic Association. (Please refer to the 5th point in the "8-point" directive)."

Taken from the link which you cited (cardinalkungfoundation.org):

"Did You Know That . . .
* There are about 50 Patriotic Association seminarians and priests studying in various seminaries across the United States?
* Those seminarians are given full tuition, room and board scholarships from various seminaries?
* This program is sponsored by Maryknoll on behalf of the Patriotic Association?
* A number of Patriotic Association priests have been given full faculties in some Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States and are authorized to administer any Holy Sacrament to the public?"

To this somewhat unsophisticated back-pew Catholic this appears to be a bit of an inconsistancy. It seems to me that the dioceses deal with the SSPX as if they were the spawn of the devil. At the same time they assist the Patriotic Association, which has set up a a competing, parallel hierarchical structure, to continue its subversion and persecution of the true church in concert with its avowedly atheistic government.
It doesn't add up.
Something seems to be very rotten here.


415 posted on 01/29/2005 10:06:40 PM PST by rogator
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To: rogator; ninenot
You are right. The Chinese "Patriotic" is every bit as much the spawn of Lucifer as is SSPX. Both are very much so. In pointing out the obvious as to the schismatic nature of SSPX and its justly excommunicated leadership, no actual Catholic will deny that there are problems such as you reference among the worst elements not yet separated by decree from the actual Roman Catholic Church.

The late Bernardin, Mahoney, Pilarczyk, Pella, Gregory, Fiorenza, Imesch, Adamec, Rectalbert Weakland, Leonardo Boff, Edward Schillebeeckx, Hans Kung, Keeler, McCarrick and so many, many more are the grave failings of the institutional Church. Bishops among them are successors of Judas. None of that is any of the business of those outside the Roman Catholic Church whether Protestants, pagans, snake worshipers or Marcellians. The Marcellian schismatics are the business of Catholics only insofar as they fraudulently claim inclusion in Catholicism from which they have been expelled.

418 posted on 01/30/2005 8:07:01 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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