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To: ninenot
Yup. No question that in excommunicating schizzies, the Pope is incorrect, especially in view of his Authorship of Canon Law.

Don't tell me that you seriously think JPII wrote each law. LOL! First. LeFebvre in no way shape or form is schismatic. That's why a new definition has been invented accordign to Flummerfelt at EWTN. Second, you seem to be making up doctrine that the Pope can't be wrong in these matters. Guess what babes? He can, and is, quite often! I remember Madrid from Envoy prattling on about the Pope being the "top Theologian" in the Church. I asked him if he could back that claim up and he was stumped. I swear, if it weren't so deadly to souls, you guys making up doctrine on the spot would be funny.

Glad to have you here to straighten us out.

Somebody has to try at least, though it's probably futile with the lack of intellectual depth displayed by the neos that whine and cry if someone points out that the Church organization is in a shambles due to the malfeasance and neglect of 3 Popes.

BTW, it is entirely irrelevant that Prots "like" or "dislike" the NO. What is, SOLELY, relevant is its canonization by a Pope, the ONLY individual authorized to do so.

What makes you think that the Novus Ordo that is translated into the vernacular is a canonized Liturgy? Forget the fact that the Novus Ordo is the Mass of 1969 with no Apostolic roots to it. The ICEl did quite a job pushing the Novus Ordo translations right over the cliff of orthodoxy and the penchant for change encourages the liturgical abuse.

And it is relevant that the Prots like or dislike the N.O. because it gives creedence to the fact that the awful Liturgy of PaulVI is insufficiently demonstrating the Catholic Faith, especially when seen in comparison to the Old Rite.

Your interest in Prot 'interests' is smoke, like your claim to a right to judge the Pope (above.)

More crap. Judging the Pope means I'm capable of punishing him. That's all. I'm fully capable of pointing out that he's in error and able to resist his destructive policies in order to preserve my faith. Sheesh! You'll believe anything that gets tossed at you as some kind of orthodox catch phrase. Am I going to hear "Rome has Spoken" or " Christ' hand-picked sucessor to Peter, the Patriarch of the West, the Supreme Pontiff???" Neos like to spout off phrases like that with not a clue as to what they mean and ultimately they help to undermine the papacy.

Buh-bye, Schizzie.

Oh! I'm struck! I can't argue against such penetrating logic. The day is yours Mr. Chesterton.

413 posted on 01/29/2005 9:13:57 PM PST by Gerard.P (If you've lost your faith, you don't know you've lost it. ---Fr. Malachi Martin R.I.P.)
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To: Gerard.P

The Pope's promulgation of Canon Law supercedes your inane argument that he did not "personally" write every jot and tittle thereof.

But inanity seems to be your specialty, as you continue to object without grounds that the Pope does not have the authority to approve, through the Congregation of Worship or otherwise, the NO.

Were you to acknowledge the validity of the Pope's action while holding that the ICEL translation sucks, we would be in complete agreement.

But you choose to walk and talk like a Schizzie instead. May God help you to a reconciliation with the Roman Catholic Church.


416 posted on 01/30/2005 5:35:44 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Gerard.P; ninenot
GP: Sorry I forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

Roma locuta. Causa finita.

Those words are as vital to Roman Catholics as are the words "Non serviam" to Lucifer and Marcel's cult."

If the traditional pieties of the actual Roman Church offend you, you can take your refuge in "Non serviam." It's a tradition odf sorts just not of a Catholic sort.

How nice it must seem to you for you to have found a new and quite eccentric cult conceived by the excommunicated Marcel in his own image and likeness and yours. Perhaps, God, in His infinite mercy has somehow admitted Marcel to the shack by the river in eternity in spite of it all. That might give hope to those who have apostasized for Marcel and hilariously believe that there is no salvation outside the Church which they imagine to be their tiny circle of malcontents.

Roma locuta. Causa finita!

So much to say and so little time!

As a schizzie, you have no standing to argue against His Holiness and be heard as a Catholic critic. Perforce, you cannot be a Catholic critic unless you are a Catholic. You have to return to the Catholic faith, discipline and practice to do so. Even then we are a Church and not a democracy or a moral anarchy in the pews subject to the opinions of the chronically offended and unbalanced and unCatholic.

419 posted on 01/30/2005 8:25:59 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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