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Another Diocesan Priest Rejects Novus Ordo
The Remnant ^ | 1/31/05 | Thomas A. Droleskey, Ph.D.

Posted on 01/25/2005 2:58:28 PM PST by csbyrnes84

Father Paul Sretenovic, a priest of the Archdiocese of Newark, New Jersey, who was ordained to the priesthood in 2002, has abandoned the Novus Ordo in order to embrace Catholic Tradition without compromise. Father Sretenovic (pronounced Stre-ten-o-vich) informed his ordinary, the Most Reverend John Myers, the Archbishop of Newark, of his decision in a letter mailed to his Excellency’s home address on the Feast of the Holy Innocents, Wednesday, December 28, 2004:

“Your Excellency: I am writing to inform you of my decision to leave the Archdiocese of Newark. It is a decision that is eighteen months in the making, and it has finally come to a head. This archdiocese, while retaining some very good priests, is, like every other diocese in the Catholic Church today, plagued by the heresy of modernism in many different forms. I recently attended a Monday afternoon of Reflection at Southmont with the Opus Dei priests and listened as one of them said that we are not looking to return to Christendom. To me, that said it all. It is not just about the Latin Mass. It is something much, much deeper, and it is the basis of my decision. Pope Pius XI in his encyclical, Quas Primas, said that Jesus Christ is not only the Lord of every individual, but also of every human society. The Syllabus of Errors of Blessed Pius IX, #77, in particular, exposes the error of separation of Church and State, a doctrine now upheld by the Vatican as the ideal, using both the Second Vatican Council’s Declaration on Religious Liberty, which could very easily have been called the Declaration of Religious Liberty (reference to our Declaration of Independence intended), as well as individual decisions from the Vatican to accelerate such a separation in what were otherwise thoroughly Catholic countries, such as, among others, Colombia, 98% Catholic. The orientation of the Church is now very much in line with the principles of the French Revolution, namely liberty, fraternity, and equality. Hence, the mainstay catchwords from the Council—religious liberty, ecumenism, and collegiality. That is not a coincidence, and it is evil. The Liturgy is just one of the many lambs to be slaughtered along the way towards a Christian Democracy, which, to the dismay and shock of many in the Church, will lead directly to the worldwide takeover of Atheistic Communism, warned of indirectly by Our Lady of Fatima in 1917, and communicated by Sr. Lucia to the Catholic historian William Thomas Walsh in 1946. Russia has still not been consecrated, and she continues to spread her errors until one day, it will be too late. In the meantime, I choose to exercise my priesthood in the way intended by Almighty God, teaching sound doctrine and leading the flock by holiness of life, as St. Paul exhorted St. Timothy in his pastoral epistle.

“In the situation in which I am now, and basically in any Novus Ordo parish anywhere in the world, let alone this particular Archdiocese, I always have to watch my back and I always, at each and every Mass that I offer, have to compromise. Whether it is in the bad wording or bland prayers of the Sacramentary, or in the distribution of Communion in the hand, or in the virtually mandatory use of Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion, there is always something there to remind me, as the song goes, and it stops now. I pray to God and to Our Blessed Mother that you obtain the grace necessary to perceive the gravity of the present situation and to act accordingly. I include my email address below for further correspondence. I know this is a shock, but for me, even the FSSP would be a compromise. Haven’t we all done enough of that?! As people were looking East this Advent season, Our Lady was leading me to, go West. In Christ the King, Fr. Paul Branko Sretenovic.”

In an e-mail to this writer sent on January 9, 2005, Father Sretenovic explained the sequence of events after this point:

“To give you the backdrop of my correspondence with the Archbishop, he said that parts of what I wrote, without specifying, were ‘inaccurate’ and ‘unfair.’ I responded through the Vicar General for the time-being that what I wrote was not ‘inaccurate’ and ‘unfair.’ I then asked the question as to whether the Archbishop would say that Cardinal Ratzinger was either of the two, specifying the terms, when he wrote that through the Council, the Church had ‘come to terms with the principles of 1789.’ I left it at that and will write the Archbishop directly within the week.”

Father Sretenovic had determined quite clearly that he could no longer make any further compromises with a Mass that did not give God the full honor and glory that are His due and a pastoral approach to the problems of the world that was premised upon a rejection of a defined teaching of the Catholic Church, the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ, and an actual embrace of the errors of Modernity and Modernism.

Father Sretenovic did indeed head west, leaving Our Lady, Queen of Peace Church in Maywood, New Jersey, on Thursday, December 29, 2004, the Feast of Saint Thomas a Becket, to drive out to Our Lady Help of Christians Church in Garden Grove, California, joining Father Patrick J. Perez and Father Lawrence C. Smith in the offering of the Traditional Latin Mass and the totality of the Catholic Faith in all of its integrity to Catholics in one of the most liturgically revolutionary places in the whole Church, the Metropolitan Province of Los Angeles, California. Father Sretenovic distributed Holy Communion to the faithful at Our Lady Help of Christians on the Feast of the Holy Family on Sunday, January 9, 2005, saying, “I have never before felt like I did in my first Traditional giving of the Eucharist, or however you want to put it. It was awesome and I felt like a priest in a way that I haven't before. The formula is much better, not to mention the signing of the Cross, and the use of the paten for the Sacred Particles, AND the posture of the people with open mouths, heads tilted upwards like chicks eagerly welcoming their mother with the food that she is providing for them.” [He offered his first Traditional Latin Mass there on Sunday, January 16, 2005.]

Father Sretenovic, who was born on January 8, 1974, found his way to Our Lady Help of Christians within three months of meeting Father Perez at Father Nicholas Gruner’s Fatima conference in Glendale, California, at the end of September, 2004. Father Perez’s mother, Mrs. Margaret Perez, saw Father Sretenovic and told him that he had to meet her son, making sure that the two of them sat down for dinner after Father Perez’s talk at the conference. Father Sretenovic was impressed with Father Perez’s knowledge of the Faith and of the development of the Mass. Mr. John Vennari, the editor of Catholic Family News, also spoke to Father Sretenovic about the crisis in the Church and of the necessity of fleeing from the Novus Ordo structures. Seeds were being planted.

Father Sretenovic contacted this writer in early December of 2004, and a luncheon meeting was arranged in Wayne, New Jersey, following a First Friday Mass at Our Lady of Fatima Chapel in Pequannock, New Jersey, on December 3, 2004. This writer and his wife, to put it charitably, pummeled Father Sretenovic, asking him bluntly as to how long he could continue to give out Communion in the hand and continue to offer a Mass that less fully communicates the truths of the Catholic Faith and does not render God the full honor and glory that are His due. Father Sretenovic listened, particularly to Mrs. Droleskey’s heartfelt plea to give Our Lord and His flock unfettered access to the fullness of the Catholic Faith. Father Sretenovic promised to contact Fathers Perez and Smith. He also wrote fairly immediately to Father Stephen P. Zigrang, whose association with the Society of Saint Pius X prompted the soon-to-be promoted Archbishop of Galveston-Houston, the Most Reverend Joseph Fiorenza, a protégé of the late Joseph Cardinal Bernardin, to suspend him for an association with a “schismatic” group that, among other things, denied the “enduring validity of the Old Covenant God made with the people of Israel.”

Father Sretenovic carefully weighed his options, keeping in close contact with Father Lawrence C. Smith, who left the Diocese of Davenport, Iowa, on September 8, 2003. Father Sretenovic also had contact with priests in the Society of Saint Pius X, determining ultimately that it would be best for him to be with Fathers Perez and Smith in California. Father was most intent on placing himself in a situation where the gaps in his preparation for priestly ordination could be closed and he could concentrate on his own personal sanctification while offering Catholics the Immemorial Mass of Tradition. He arrived at his decision after a great deal of reflection and a bit of indecision, coming to the conclusion in the final analysis that he needed to make a clean break from the diocesan structure sooner rather than later, understanding that the faithful have a right in perpetuity to the Traditional Latin Mass, which can never be subject justly to any limitations or conditions by any bishop, including the Pope himself. Father Smith was most instrumental in helping Father Sretenovic to come to this decision, saying that “it was his call that put me over the edge. Within 20 minutes after my conversation with him, I was writing my letter” to Archbishop Myers.

Father Sretenovic was not heedless of the fact that his own ordinary, Archbishop Myers, though not a traditionalist himself, has been sympathetic to priests desirous of offering the Traditional Latin Mass. Father Sretenovic also understood, however, that the embrace of Tradition, while it starts with the Mass, involves quite fundamentally an embrace of the totality of the Catholic Faith without any taint of corruption by the novelties and errors of the past forty to forty-seven years. Father Sretenovic also knows that ordinaries come and go, a point demonstrated quite graphically when Bishop John Myers of Peoria, Illinois, was elevated to the archbishopric of Newark. Although Bishop Myers had granted permission to Father Michael Driscoll, the pastor of Saint Mary’s Church in Rock Island, Illinois, to offer the Traditional Latin Mass on a daily basis, that permission was revoked by Myers’s successor, Bishop Michael Jenky, who demoted Father Driscoll to the post of an assistant hospital chaplain at Saint Francis Hospital in Peoria. Father Sretenovic, understanding, as eight cardinals noted in a finding sent to Pope John Paul II in 1986, the binding nature of the Traditional Latin Mass can never be abrogated, did not want to subject himself to the vagaries of episcopal arbitrariness. He realized that he needed the stability offered by the Traditional Latin Mass for his own sanctification–and that the people have the absolute right to safe harbor found therein.

The story of Father Paul Sretenovic continues, therefore, a remarkable display of courage on the part of diocesan priests who have been willing to forsake all of their canonical safety and human respect in order to embrace Tradition without compromise. Men such as Fathers Sretenovic and Zigrang and Smith were ordained after the implementation of the liturgical revolution had begun. Father Zigrang was ordained in 1977. Father Smith was ordained in 1997. Father Sretenovic was ordained in 2002. Although there have been priests (such as Father Stephen Somerville) who were ordained in the Traditional rite and have returned thereto, the embrace of Tradition by priests who are relatively young (in the case of Father Zigrang) or very young (in the case of Fathers Smith and Sretenovic) is particularly galling to the liturgical revolutionaries, men and women who brook no opposition and who protest with great vehemence the glories of the “liturgical renewal.” How can it be, they ask themselves, that men who have been immersed in their handiwork all of their lives can become counter-revolutionaries and reject all of their “enlightened” schemes and programs?

The revolutionaries can protest all they want. The plain fact of the matter is that there are a number of priests across the nation who may be following the examples of Fathers Zigrang, Smith and Sretenovic. More than a handful of priests are on the fence as this is being written. Some are waiting for Rome to come to their “rescue” by means of an Apostolic Administration. Some are afraid of what will happen to their sheep should they simply leave their diocesan assignments. Others are simply afraid to pray for the graces to muster up the courage to stop participating in sacrileges such as the distribution of Communion in the hand. From the vantage point of one who travels great distances across the nation to get his family to the daily offering of the Traditional Latin Mass, it is time for our shepherds to give us our due, the Immemorial Mass of Tradition, understanding that Our Lady will take care of their temporal needs and that the rectitude of their actions will be understood fully only on the Last Day at the General Judgment of the Living and the Dead.

Indeed, the witness given by Fathers Zigrang, Smith and Sretenovic, as well as the witness given by the bishops and the priests of the Society of Saint Pius X, to the necessity of proclaiming the fullness of the Catholic Faith without compromise and without any dilution serves as an inspiration to the sheep who are seeking safety and security in the midst of doctrinal and liturgical instability and turmoil within the diocesan structures. They are willing to be calumniated, even by fellow traditionalists who have anointed themselves to be in the august and pristine "mainstream," in order to bear a witness to the authentic Tradition of the Church without any compromise at all. No loss of human respect and no amount of name-calling or sloganeering will ever deter them from giving their sheep the fullness of the Catholic Faith.

At least some of the sheep will respond when their shepherds put themselves on the line to give them what is their due, namely, the Traditional Latin Mass. Hundreds upon hundreds of people, for example, have found their way to Our Lady Help of Christians Church in Garden Grove, California. Most of these people have never heard of The Remnant, Catholic Family News, or Christ or Chaos. They've never heard of Christ the King College and most of them probably think that GIRM Warfare has something to do with bacteriology. They're just Catholics who understand that the first law of the Church is the salvation of souls and that they do not have to sit idly by and be subjected to the rot of conciliar novelties in the context of what pretends to pass for the Church's liturgy and catechesis. These good souls are fed up with what is going on in their local dioceses and parishes and they simply want the fullness of the Catholic Faith to be made manifest to them during Holy Mass and in the life of their parish. The same is true of the fifteen families who have found their way from Saint Andrew's Church in Channelview, Texas, to Queen of Angels Church in Dickinson, Texas (and Saint Michael the Archangel Chapel in Spring, Texas), following after their inimitable pastor, Father Zigrang. The sheep want Christ and His truth to be made manifest to them without novelty or dilution. This is nothing other than one of their baptismal birthrights as Catholics.

Father Paul Sretenovic finds himself some 3,000 miles away from his parents, who are residents of New Jersey. He has gone this distance to serve sheep without compromise. He is in need of our prayers. More of his brother priests need to follow his example of humility and fidelity, to say nothing of his courage. As a son of Our Lady, Father Sretenovic has entrusted himself entirely to her Immaculate Heart. He knows that she will take good care of him as he acts in the person of her Divine Son as a sacerdos. Father Sretenovic delivered his first sermon at Our Lady Help of Christians on Sunday, January 16, 2004, stating that he had come to realize that the devil has essentially used the hierarchy of the Church to communicate the belief that one can eat from all of the trees in the "garden" today (Judaism, Islam, the New Age Movement, Wicca, Modernism) except the tree of Tradition, from which it is forbidden to eat. He said that the Novus Ordo Missae breeds lukewarmness, crediting Father Paul Kramer’s The Devil’s Final Battle and this writer’s G.I.R.M. Warfare with helping him to see how he was stuck in this lukewarmness himself. His sermon resonated with the 700 parishioners in attendance at the three Masses offered at Our Lady Help of Christians.

Our Lady Help of Christians, pray for Father Sretenovic. Pray for all traditionally-minded priests to follow his example of pure love for Tradition without fear of the canonical and/or temporal consequences. Pray for us sheep, that we might make the sacrifices necessary to help our shepherds feed us with the pure milk of Tradition.


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To: thor76
Concentration of power in the hands of one man, or woman, is to invite abuse.

Checks and balances are better.

121 posted on 01/25/2005 9:12:10 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur; pascendi; CouncilofTrent

NO!

You are the one who is defending a position which claims that Americanism is other then it truly is.

YOU are the one who has been challenged - over and over - to defend your position. So it is you who must prove himself.

I do not want to see endless links. What I do want to see is your explanation of your position.......and cheap one liners will not be accepted.


122 posted on 01/25/2005 9:12:56 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: sinkspur
"Idi was a monarch. Pascendi no doubt approved of him."

Did he govern his state in submission to the Catholic Church and in conformity with Catholic doctrine?

123 posted on 01/25/2005 9:15:21 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: pascendi
I didn't hear it, or watch it. Probably because I don't care.

I'm sure. The fate of those suffering under tyranny is of no concern to one who might just support those tyrants as long as they cut the Catholic Church a break.

124 posted on 01/25/2005 9:15:37 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur; CouncilofTrent; pascendi

"Concentration of power in the hands of one man, or woman, is to invite abuse.
Checks and balances are better."

Ah. thank you - that settles everything.

So we are finally in agreement.

Thus the bishops should have all church funds pulled from their greedy little fingers........likewise with a pastors of parishes...........and there chould be lay oversight (of a real kind), and a sharing of financial administrative duties with the laity - of a REAL nature.

Checks and balances indeed.

After all...."CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN THE HANDS OF ONE MAN.........IS TO INVITE ABUSE".

Thank you for agreeing!


125 posted on 01/25/2005 9:17:26 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: CouncilofTrent; thor76
And what of Idi Amin in Uganda?

Honestly, this idea of Paul's, in holy scripture, has just come to my attention and I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around it for the exact reason your example, one of thousands in history, suggests. I was hoping Thor might have some insight.

126 posted on 01/25/2005 9:21:52 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: thor76
Thus the bishops should have all church funds pulled from their greedy little fingers........likewise with a pastors of parishes...........and there chould be lay oversight (of a real kind), and a sharing of financial administrative duties with the laity - of a REAL nature.

Well, since you've decided to take a discussion about political philosophies and apply it to Church governance, then allow me to agree with you, and go one step further.

Laymen should be intimately involved in choosing the bishops who will govern them. Diocesan pastoral councils will affirm episcopal choices, and Rome will sign off on these affirmations.

And, as you state, laymen will control the finances of the diocese, not just "oversee" them.

We do agree on something.

127 posted on 01/25/2005 9:25:22 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur; Pio; pascendi; Maeve; Viva Christo Rey; murphE; 26lemoncharlie; Robert Drobot; ...

"What sense does it make to argue over events in the past?"

Ignorance of past history is a basic goal for the populace of Marxist-Leninists. Thank you for affriming your philosophic orientation.

"The fate of those suffering under tyranny is of no concern to one who might just support those tyrants as long as they cut the Catholic Church a break."

OK - thank you again for defining your faith - and philosophy. So the Catholic Church is just another NGO? Or is it the Bride of Christ.......the Church militant.......the Kingdom of God upon earth? With powers and priviledges surpassing every other entity on the face of the earth?

Thank you for confirming what it is that you believe in - for all the world to see.

"I am for freedom"

I see. What exactly is the meaning of this magical word: "freedom". Freedom....from.....what? For what?

Please enlighten us......O One Who Claims to be a Deacon.......as to the meaning and nature of Human Freedom?

We are waiting.


128 posted on 01/25/2005 9:26:30 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: csbyrnes84
Lots of discussion and anecdotes about Fr Sretenovic, dontcha think?

Did you have many discussions with him? I'm curious why he decided against the FSSP and the SSPX. If you're free to explain, I'm curious, as I said.
129 posted on 01/25/2005 9:29:05 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: sinkspur
"Concentration of power in the hands of one man, or woman, is to invite abuse."

Power is the wrong word. Try authority.

So, then, the papacy is a bad idea? It invites abuse? If it is true for the lessor or that which is subservient (the State), that the "concentration of power in the hands of one man" invites abuse in the temporal arena, then should this not also be true a fortiori, for that which by infallible definition oversees not only the temporal, but the spiritual as well?

You would thereby be forced, ultimately, to conclude from your own principles to admit that the papacy itself is a bad idea.

Funny thing... if you really go have a look see, you'll find that, while not admitted openly, the above is the exact doctrine of the liberals in regards the authority of Roman Pontiff. Rousseau, from The Social Contract:

"Now that there is and can be no longer an exclusive national religion, tolerance should be given to all religions that tolerate others, so long as their dogmas contain nothing contrary to the duties of citizenship. But whoever dares to say: Outside the Church is no salvation, ought to be driven from the State, unless the State is the Church, and the prince the pontiff. Such a dogma is good only in a theocratic government; in any other, it is fatal."

130 posted on 01/25/2005 9:29:32 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: sinkspur

"Laymen should be intimately involved in choosing the bishops who will govern them. Diocesan pastoral councils will affirm episcopal choices, and Rome will sign off on these affirmations."

Just as I thought, you openly espouse the desires of Modernists........those who would remake the Church in their own image. You have shown yourself for what you are, for all to see.

This was the desire of the apostate revolutionaries who agitated for radical change before, during, and after Vatican II.

You may well enjoy their company.


131 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:31 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: sinkspur; thor76
"Laymen should be intimately involved in choosing the bishops who will govern them."

Hmm. How about this?

Children should be intimately involved in choosing the parents who will care for them.

Yeah, see that doesn't work, sink. Try thinking through it all a bit more.

132 posted on 01/25/2005 9:33:28 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: sinkspur
Laymen should be intimately involved in choosing the bishops who will govern them. Diocesan pastoral councils will affirm episcopal choices, and Rome will sign off on these affirmations.

And, as you state, laymen will control the finances of the diocese, not just "oversee" them.


Wow. Quite ... reactionary.

And today is the anniversary of Emperor Henry IV knocking on Pope Gregory VII's door at Canossa!
133 posted on 01/25/2005 9:36:15 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: pascendi

"It is essential that every human be subject to the Pope in order to be saved". .....I guess that means us poor old Protestant CHRISTIANS are damned to Hell then.


134 posted on 01/25/2005 9:36:19 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: pascendi

You are quite correct - it doesn't work.

Also equally correct is the statement that one is known by the company which one keeps. As their opinion, manner, and character will surely rub off on you.......

Another way of saying it - is that error is infectious. Breathe in too much of it, and then you are filled with it.


135 posted on 01/25/2005 9:37:53 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: sinkspur

Darn. In your time zone, it's the anniversary. Here in the east, it's yesterday.


136 posted on 01/25/2005 9:38:24 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: pascendi

Just top continue that train of thought.......and wind up back where this thread started - discussing the actions of this NO priest......

The good Father in question had breathed in enough of the air of dissent and error. For the good of his soul - and the souls of Catholics whom he might come in contact with - he decided to get out of the infected area.


137 posted on 01/25/2005 9:41:43 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: BnBlFlag
"It is essential that every human be subject to the Pope in order to be saved". .....I guess that means us poor old Protestant CHRISTIANS are damned to Hell then."

Well, you aren't dead yet, so then, not yet.

Nor does it have to be. You can excercise your God given free will and enter into the Catholic Church, the Ark of Salvation, outside which none are saved.

You could do it right away. God is very patient, especially with those who seek His truth and who seek to conform to it.

However. Anyone who denies that Christ is present in the Blessed Sacrament, or who denies His mother the honor due to her, cannot truly be followers of Christ.

In a distant, or perhaps not-so-distant sense, a manner of saying, hey, honor your father and mother.

138 posted on 01/25/2005 9:50:55 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: thor76

Yes.


139 posted on 01/25/2005 9:51:40 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: sinkspur; pascendi
Sinkspur: You are allowing yourself to be baited by cartoon stick figures of the Marcellian schism. If you do not imagine the United States as a Catholic monarchy in the near future, you are a heathen enemy of their faith.

As an actual traditionalist, allow me to apologize for the phonies and the way they are wasting your time with some of the absolutely silliest arguments yet seen out of them. I have had the misfortune of becoming acquainted with Tom Droleskey who is far advanced into looney-tunehood and advancing further with each passing day. I certainly won't blame you for denying yourself the hilarious laughs or quite dubious pleasure of his acquaintance or hios company.

Droleskey is the single most pretentious dim jackass calling himself Catholic I have ever met met. I haven't met Solange Hertz who may be competitive and I do not plan to meet her. Nor John Rao or the rest of this bizarre antiCatholic and antiAmerican clique. We are a Masonic society, you see, unlike the noble and courageous Catholic nations of old Europe. Many of the pseudoTrads are also delusionally nostalgic for what disappeared long, long ago and refuse to accept the fact that Catholic Europe is dead other than the Vatican. Then again, they don't think the Vatican is Catholic. Somehow they are not as offended by France and its organ grinder's monkey Jacques Chirac.

The state of California has apparently granted some sort of accreditation to a matchbook "university" declared into existence by Droleskey. Would he be the new Catholic king of America then? Would the Vatican allow Theodore Cardinal McCarrick to be our new American king instead? Or perhaps Roger Cardinal Mahoney or William Cardinal Keeler? How about a dark horse: Bishop Thomas Gumbleton? I don't think the pseudo"trads" have thought this through. I am not sure they are capable of thinking this through.

Pascendi: Grownups don't care particularly about your pain in having your tastes offended or about your rage against the Church or as to your curious contortions as to Church doctrine. Peddle the schism elsewhere.

140 posted on 01/25/2005 11:06:48 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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