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To: bvw

No. Of course not. But you misunderstand the quote. This does not refute evolution at all.

Species differences are very slight. In sexually reproducing organisms, the definition of speciation between a mother and daughter population is the unwillingness or inability to breed with each other (population).

These differences are difficult to find with just skeletons remaining. When large skeletal changes are observed (or any large taxonomic variation) it is obvious that there is a separation (normally at the Family level or above).

Only an expert can tell the difference between two related species of beetles, for example.

And that is the whole point. Creationists do not understand the science. Or sometimes AIG and ICR purposely distort the science to their scientifically ignorant followers. When they hear scientists discussing a technical point, like why it is difficult to find species transitions in the fossil record, they use it to lie about the scientists. They actually accuse the most reputable evolutionary biologists in the world of being creationists.

This is patently dishonest and shames all who call themselves Christian.


406 posted on 02/06/2005 7:43:53 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Okay, as a person who hates liars and the lies they tell -- for so I infer from your final statement that "This is patently dishonest and shames all who call themselves Christian." (Btw that's a statement which itself I may return to hold you to account with on other grounds.)

As such a lie detesting personage, would you please back your potentially libeleous statements of fact which I have listed below. You have stated each as a fact. Loving "truth", surely you have support for each.

  1. You misunderstand the quote.
  2. Species differences are very slight
  3. Only an expert can tell the difference between two related species of beetles
  4. Creationists do not understand the science.
  5. Sometimes AIG and ICR purposely distort the science
  6. their scientifically ignorant followers.
  7. They use it to lie about the scientists.
  8. They actually accuse the most reputable evolutionary biologists in the world of being creationists.
To start you out let me point to what I find the most egregious of libels you lay against ME. You say *I* misunderstand the quote. Well -- (1) how do YOU know what I understand about it, and (2) why would you hold your own allowed understandings of it as the only possible understandings that are truthful? For that, amigo, is mentally unstable or ignorant tautologically or pathologically selfish thinking.
407 posted on 02/06/2005 8:50:06 AM PST by bvw
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To: shubi

Thanks Shubi.. you've expressed my opinion exactly.


418 posted on 02/12/2005 8:32:33 PM PST by Mightylucky
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