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To: Who is John Galt?
Actually, the burden is on you, sport.

There are detailed provisions for a state to approve the Constitution and join the United States. There is no provision for seceding. Once you're in, you're in. Show me the provision that allows a state legislature or state convention to strip its citizens of United States citizenship. Show me the provision of the Constitution that prescribes a procedure for secession. You can't.

314 posted on 01/07/2005 9:29:56 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: colorado tanker

Show me where Secession is forbidden? You won't find it either.....


355 posted on 01/07/2005 1:46:33 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: colorado tanker
There are detailed provisions for a state to approve the Constitution and join the United States. There is no provision for seceding.

So, “there is no provision for seceding?” Allow me to quote Mr. Justice Thomas (who God willing may one day be Chief Justice):

...[W]here the Constitution is silent, it raises no bar to action by the States or the people [of the States]...

As far as the Federal Constitution is concerned... the States can exercise all powers that the Constitution does not withhold from them. The Federal Government and the States thus face different default rules: where the Constitution is silent about the exercise of a particular power - that is, where the Constitution does not speak either expressly or by necessary implication - the Federal Government lacks that power and the States enjoy it. These basic principles are enshrined in the Tenth Amendment, which declares that all powers neither delegated to the Federal Government nor prohibited to the States - are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people [of the States].

U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, 1995

Thank you for proving my point.

;>)

Once you're in, you're in. Show me the provision that allows a state legislature or state convention to strip its citizens of United States citizenship. Show me the provision of the Constitution that prescribes a procedure for secession. You can't.

Sorry, but I don’t have to “show” you anything: as Mr. Justice Thomas so eloquently observed – “the Federal Government and the States... face different default rules: where the Constitution is silent about the exercise of a particular power - that is, where the Constitution does not speak either expressly or by necessary implication - the Federal Government lacks that power and the States enjoy it.” In other words, it’s up to YOU to prove that the federal government possesses some constitutionally delegated power to prevent a State from retiring from the union. If you can’t, then “the States enjoy it.”

Have at it, sport...

;>)

388 posted on 01/07/2005 4:24:15 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ('Secession was unconstitutional' - the ultimate non sequitur...)
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