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To: GOPcapitalist
So, Davis abused his power in 13 areas and Lincoln 18 areas.

13 is a pretty high number for a nation formed to 'resist Northern tyranny'

And ofcourse, Bensel is the final word on this matter!

The point is that the war as the context led both sides to take measures they preferred not to take.

Stop playing games and deal with the central issue. The tu quoquery of you and non-seq aside, the central and original issue was Lincoln's abuses of power. The only games that were ever played to dance around it were of a tu quoque nature and, as noted, you and non-seq were the ones who played them.

No, the smoke screen that you want to put up is to try to ignore the extreme crises that Lincoln faced and that was the reason he took, in some cases, extreme measures.

Davis had to do the same thing.

What is amazing is the amount of restraint, not the abuse, that both men displayed in this struggle.

It represented the fact that both men were trying to preserve a Constitutional form of Government and hoped to return to it fully in peace.

4,292 posted on 04/05/2005 1:40:38 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, Davis abused his power in 13 areas and Lincoln 18 areas.

According to Bensel's study.

13 is a pretty high number for a nation formed to 'resist Northern tyranny'

Since your so into the habit of making comparisons I'll let you tell me. Which is greater: 18 or 13?

And ofcourse, Bensel is the final word on this matter!

Can't tell you that. He is, however, one of the more reputable scholars who has attempted to quantify the comparison.

Davis had to do the same thing.

Not quite. Bensel's stats show Davis did it less than Lincoln, thus it is not the "same thing." We also know that where Davis and Lincoln have been criticized over similar types of abuses - foremost among them being habeas corpus - that Lincoln's violations of habeas corpus far exceeded Davis'.

4,303 posted on 04/05/2005 9:33:08 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: fortheDeclaration
...Richard F. Bensel...

A man should be known by the company he keeps. And considering the bullshit that Bensel is lumped in with in this site then he can hardly be considered an objective and unbiased source. That's probably why GOP luvs him so.

4,399 posted on 04/06/2005 2:55:16 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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