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To: Corin Stormhands
It's that horrifying. And you say that makes God happy.

It is horrifying. God says explictly that:

Matthew 6:22,23 The lamp of the body is the eye; if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body will be light: but if thine eye be wicked, thy whole body will be dark. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great the darkness!

Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the uplifted arm is broken.

Proverbs 4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

You seem to be under the impression that God only does what makes Him HAPPY. God is Love and yet demonstrates His Wrath to us--not to the wicked but ON the wicked in front of us. And yet all hear the very same gospel of power that births those who are elected by God to be birthed. There is no discrimination in the Speaking of the true gospel. It is Spoken to all--not "offered" to all. The benefit of the non-elect in hearing God as power is that they get the stamina to burn in hell forever without being consumed.

God has given some ears to hear and others He has withheld those ears. Heaven and hell were never meant to be the home of identical creatures in two different places. Heaven is for the new creation/elect in Jesus Christ and hell is for the non-elect.

Merely boohooing over a party not present (the non-elect) as if you have more compassion than God on their behalf is simply a worship of your own heart and its presumption of present emotional skill set against God in sin. Sin always does the same as much as it can: pretend all those who hear the gospel, God as His Word, are the non-elect and that they should in solidarity to each other define God in such a way as to make God a monster for being Him, then go to God-as-holy-information, (not God as His Word as He truly is...) and interpret/'understand' their way toward what they want to feel.

Proverbs 4:24-27 Put away from thee perverseness of mouth, and corrupt lips put far from thee. Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee. Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be well-ordered. Turn not to the right hand nor to the left; remove thy foot from evil.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

346 posted on 12/19/2004 3:40:40 PM PST by telder1
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To: telder1
God has given some ears to hear and others He has withheld those ears. Heaven and hell were never meant to be the home of identical creatures in two different places. Heaven is for the new creation/elect in Jesus Christ and hell is for the non-elect.

Excellent writing.

348 posted on 12/19/2004 3:45:21 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: telder1

***It is horrifying.***

You know it is funny in a way. I bet most Arminians don't even know that John the Baptist preached the gospel like this:

"[The Lord's] winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

John doesn't say that His winnowing fan will be in his hand. The Lord's winnowing fan was already in his hand when he arrived the first time. The Lord has been busy for 2000 years gathering wheat into his barn and separating us from the chaff which he fully intends to burn.

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


366 posted on 12/19/2004 5:38:08 PM PST by thePilgrim
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