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To: Jehu

We didn't descend from apes. We both came from a common ancestor, but apes split off millions of years before.

Genesis is not allegorical. Allegory is specifically where every symbol means something else.

There is hardly any allegory in the Bible. A long time ago, there were those that interpreted everything as an allegory, but that just did not hold water.

Similarly, a literalist translation does not hold water.

I think the concept of original sin is misunderstood by the literalists. I simply believe Adam is a story of how some ancient peoples tried to explain their existence. I think there are some spiritual lessons there, but they may not be exactly what you interpret them to be (or what your pastor thinks they are).

The Bible is a book about the Spirit and the Kingdom of God. If you are an engineer, you may be looking for too much precision. Nothing is certain. God is not about to reveal all his secrets. A God that did would not be much of a God. I know that I make mistakes (sin) every day. To me this is a continual fight between my animal nature and my spiritual nature. It is spiritual warfare. If you reject the fact you have come from animals, you are endangering your spirit, for you will not recognize the battle until it is too late.


881 posted on 12/21/2004 3:09:56 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
We didn't descend from apes. We both came from a common ancestor, but apes split off millions of years before.

Don't you mean chimps or monkeys? We *are* apes aren't we? I stand ready to be corrected by one who knows his taxonomy though.

886 posted on 12/21/2004 3:18:12 PM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: shubi
You are in error about original sin. I agree we are in spiritual warfare between two natures. However we are doomed without outside help. Nothing God does is vague. It is all very specific. Jesus is not a magic wand. He came to fulfill law, and execute a new covenant with man.

The Bible makes no mistake in mentioning original sin. To deny that central tenet is to deny most of the Bible, and all most all of Paul's writings. He could only take away sin from us ALL, (as one man himself), if that sin came into ALL of humanity through one man. The account of Genesis stands as is. There cannot be common descent from another species, we must all have only a common parent!

I am not a young earth believer. I do believe the Gap between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2. Unless I can be dissuaded about original sin I will view evolutionary teaching as a direct attack upon the central tenet of original sin.

I really personally could care less if God did things by evolution, or fiat. But the revelation of original sin, the teachings of the Bible, and my own experience and observation, and the writings of hundreds of Christian scholars persuade me that this is correct.

Evolution, (as taught now) is in contradiction to original sin, and is my basis to oppose this theory vehemently, until either it, or Christianity is vanquished! You are fighting the wrong battle on the wrong side.

I have not even touched upon the utter disaster evolutionary theory has wrecked upon humanity from a sociological viewpoint. It turns loose a nihilism upon man we cannot afford. For that reason alone it should be rejected.
896 posted on 12/21/2004 3:38:36 PM PST by Jehu
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