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To: Thatcherite
Nice story if I was 9 or 10. Do YOU actually believe this garbage? Have you read how specific the relationship is in symbiotic relationships? The Yucca moth has the only body shape that fits the Yucca flower. The Yucca flower is shaped only to accept the Yucca moth.

Incremental changes would work, I suppose, but only if synchronized over millions of years between the two species. Each slight change in anticipation of the end result. By definition ToE cannot anticipate anything. To believe ToE can account for symbiotic relationships is to believe beyond what I believe in a Supreme God.

At least I can pin my belief on a somebody...fanciful or not. But ToE is not even a well described system? of forces. And it cannot think nor plan...yet it can order species to appear at a future date in complete symbiosis with each other? Come on Thatcher...think about it!

What do you have to lose to go study about symbiotic life, look into the evolutionist literature, think for yourself. Do a thought experiment for a week, pretend evolution is in question, then examine such things as the cycle of parasites, or symbiotic relationships.

There are even some symbiotic relationships in nature of 3 species, (that I know about) Your eager acceptance of ToE has caused you to loose your questioning ability. You only train it upon any anti-evolutionists, in fairness you ought to be just as ruthless to evolutionary claims, what do you have to fear of finding out? If evolution is TRUE, it will bear any critical assault you can muster.
746 posted on 12/20/2004 11:59:10 AM PST by Jehu
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To: Jehu
You asked for an explanation. You got one that seems reasonable to professional biologists even if you don't like it. (though I didn't detect any meaningful objections in your post). So why be abusive?

No anticipation is required by nature; just a succession of slight changes over many generations, perhaps millions, with an increasing reproductive reward for both species in the nascent symbiosis for co-operation the tighter it gets. But nature didn't have to know where things were going. That is how symbiosis evolves. No magic needed. Just differential reproductive success rewarding those individuals best adapted to current circumstances.

The vehemence with which you reject the possibility betrays your fear that it could be true and the fear of what that would mean to your faith, which you have nailed to the falsity of ToE.

747 posted on 12/20/2004 12:18:13 PM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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