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B:I've seen this list. Its the stupidest argument going. Was Newton aware of the evidence we have for Big and Biological Evolution? So Issac Newton is stupid and ignorant according to you. How brazenly arrogant. B: LOL. Reuben, please indicate where I've calimed any such thing, or retract your post and apologize for lying. Let me guess, until you came on the scene, everyone was a drooling imbecile. B: Obviously my simple argument is way over your head. Remember, you are the one who claims to be a descendant of an ape. B: A ver distant one, but yes indeed. I must also comment on your confusion between "evidence" and "proof". Evidence is the basis on which theories are constucted. You and I have the exact same evidence, yet we each come up with different theories. I see the Grand Canyon and see a gigantic dam burst, B: Reuben is confused as to how one collects and evaluates evidence. Reuben's example is no more different than the simple child that looks at the clouds and imagines he see a cat or a dog. Simple fact is Reuben, your theories have no evidence. When has a dam burst produced a meandering river? for example. you look at the Grand Canyon and see billions of years of water running thousands of feet uphill. B: No, Reuben, I see continental uplift. Just like what is happening in Fennoscnadia and is still happening in the basin and range. You see, we can meausre the, slow, motions of the of the Earth's crust. You're ignorant and wrong. Start getting use to the words "ignorant and worng". You'll be hearing them from me a lot. I see aquatic fossils on mountain peaks and say "Noah's Flood", B: Even Leonardo DiVinci figured out what was wrong with this. THe problem is, is not only our fossils found on the mountain tops, they are found within the mountain itself. If Reuben can't figure out why this is a problem, then he is a few centuries out of touch. Or does Reuben think DiVinci was an idiot? you look at the exact same evidence and come up with laughable theories B: Noachian Flood theory is laughable. The early geologists gave up up on it by the early the 18th century. of how mountains rose up from no where, B: Again, Reuben is projecting his own, incredible ignorance onto others. THis is the thing that really bugs me about creationists. They are so cluless, they actually believe that nobody has answers to questions they dream up, when in reality they've been studied for centuries. And yet Reuben accuses me of ignorance? Thats too funny. Mountain can arise in two major ways. The most common is collisions between continent bearing plates. For example the Himalayas ae forming at the boundary between the Indian plate and Eurasia plate. They are still growing as indicated by geodetic measrements. GPS is good for other things besides guiding missles. Another important process which makes mountains is volcanic activity. I live on an old volcanic mountain. Its called Oahu. I guess Reuben never heard of a volcano? Never seen one? Never heard of GPS? Just all figments of my imagination? Eh? Reuben crawl out form under your rock and get educated. THis country has enough slackers as it is. for no know reason, B: no know reason? You mean no reason Reuben knows about. Which is quite a different thing than "no known reason". Who is the arrogant one, Reuben? and did this magically without disturbing the fossil record on top. B: Oh its plenty disturbed in places. LOL. Yet despite the fact that your interpretation of the evidence leads you to make outrageous unsuportable claims, you have the gaul to say "Creationists are so silly" B: THey are, and you've scibbled several things that are wrong. You have no knowledge, no credibility. You've made a great case as to why creationism is devoid of anything of value. THanks.